My family has in it’s possession two 1st class relics of Saints (St. Thomas Aquinas & St. EA Seaton).
What are appropriate ways to reverently display them in one’s home?
Also, what about 2nd or 3rd class relics? We also are in possession of a number of those from various Saints.
Thank you in advance for your advice!
I have a first class relic of John Newman, and I keep it on my little shrine in my room. I would keep it with other objects like a crucifix or statue.
I hate relics…question of taste and reverence…
Thank you for your opinion, but it has nothing to do with the questions I asked.
Is it ok to hate relics? Is it ok to hate holy and blessed objects?
Sorry, not trying to derail the thread…I’ve just never heard of this position before. At the time time I can kind of understand not liking the idea of having human remains around. So I’m not criticizing, just wondering.
Yeah, hate is such an ugly word. Like moist and guava. Sorry in advance for the thread derail. Somehow, I couldn’t help it! :o
Sorry, this is an International Forum, I guess.
I have seen nowhere that this is a Forum limited to native English Speakers. If so, Byt, byt, I exit.
There is the Queen’s English, the Scottich one that I love, the Irish too, there is the Australian and the American and one thing that is the International English.
The International Engish is like Latin in the middle ages. It is a “lingua franca”, a language used for communication internationally, over which neither English or Americans or native English People have any power.
I do not care how New Yorkers or Londoners speak their english when we are in a group os polish, russians, spanish, japanese and ivory coast people. In this case, it is much more fun, for we have no one telling us in the ear that such and such a word are nor used in such and such context, if “hate” is the appropriated world or not. Everybody understand what the other say.
What puzzles me most is when I go to English, many english people speak to foreigners as if they were english, sometimes with strange accents that they think it is Queen’s English. The other day I was black not understandin anything of what a fellow said when I asked a ensligh colleague and she said: “I have difficulty too, She is from Liverpool”. Then I realized that accent.
A friend of mine from Arizona went to Florida for College and she said that it took her 6 months to fully understand a Professor.
When I say “hate”, I mean, everybody (I think) understands that I am not an extremist that is going to throw a bomb into the relics.
And the answer is not out of the thread. If does not please me to have the bones of the a saint of me, of course, for me it is not something that I would place in any place in my house. I praise other people’s devotion and I do not comment. But I was asked a question. Should I answer: “put it in the center of the house because I do not like reclics?”
Is this so difficult to understand? Is this such a drama ?
No drama. I was just making a joke. I’d better not quit my day job.
Thanks for explaining your response! It makes perfect sense, and I understand you now. Usually, in common speech, it is ok to say “hate” to mean “dislike”…as in* I hate hotdogs!* However, at the same time, there are different degrees to which we can dislike something. You can “hate” relics (which almost sounds demonic!), dislike relics (which means you don’t like them, which can also sound strange), or “do not prefer relics as a method of adoration” which is much more mild and sounds more accurate in terms of what you meant to say.
You are correct that there are many different ways to speak English, and no one is in charge of it! At the same time English is a very nuanced language…it has many words that mean the same thing, but still have slightly different meanings (like hate, dislike, and do not prefer). There are many other examples…so it can lead to confusion.
Still, I understand you perfectly now. You explained yourself very well. Thank you!
Signed,
-An American English speaker with a B.A. in English.
The problem is that English do not belong to Americans or English or whatsoever, Australians.
English belongs to a World Wide Community of People who speak English as a “lingua franca” so that they may understand to each other and who are not going to ask the meaning of “hate” to Americans or to English.
The country with most English-Speakers is simply China. Once, I was in Hong-Kong, I was listening to a 3rd generation HongKongese who were sepaking 4 languages at the same time, what we call the pidgin: english, Portugues, Cantonese and mandarin, and all that constituted a language.
If I say: “I hate relics” everybody in the world will understand me except…americans and maybe english (or maybe not). They start with semantics and seem not to understand that there is life outside the States. Here, I got insulted, misunderstood, and things that I will not say for the sake of semantics.
Americans are famous for not learning any language at all (I speak 7 and the more…) and for not making much effort to understand what the other meant instead of what the other say.
For me, this does not constitute problem. I leanrt english to be understood mainly by the whole world not necessarily ONLY by english and americans…I speak International English (you can find it in the instalation of Programs as a option.
Anyway, back to the relics. Maybe someone will have an answer for the OP.
In addition to AndrewF1995, of course!
lol
I’m not speaking in authority of the Church, but I recommend giving the relics to the Church. It helps many people if they can see the relic and pray in front of it. You can also give the relics to an exorcist since relics help them during exorcisms.
One way would be a nice picture frame. Put the relic in the top.
Then put underneath, who, what, where, why and how, or something
similiar about the relic. Maybe include a short paragraph about the
story of the saint, or what they were noted for. Then hang it up,
and say a prayer to the saint every morning to protect your home…
Just a thought.
Well, you could buy a reliquary for the relics and keep them on a table displayed where you pray. I know that´s what I did for the first class relic of Blessed Seelos I have. The cheapest reliquary I have seen is at autom.com and goes for $49. Just click on the tab on top tab where it says “Church supplies” and then click on the link for “Monstrances/Ostentorias”.
I also have a first class relic of St. Teresa of Avila that I keep on a chain and wrap it around the neck of a statue of the Christ Child being that St. Teresa had a great devotion to the child Jesus. I don’t know if the “theca” which is the container holding your relics can be put on a chain but that is what I have done.
As long as you show proper reverence to the relics then it shouldn’t really matter if the relics are kept in a reliquary, on a chain or kept in a keepsake box. It all comes down to the honor you show them.
God bless
Here’s a list of the countries with the most people that speak English:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population
Top 5:
1 USA
2 India
3 Nigeria
4 Philippines
5 UK
6 German
7 Canada
8 France
9 Pakistan
10 Australia
…
China is a paltry 17th!
Hate means:
Feel intense or passionate dislike (US)
Intense dislike; an intensely disliked person or thing (UK)
I’m sorry, I couldn’t find a “common world/Lingua Franca” English dictionary…because they don’t exist! You’ll have to consult from native speakers in the meantime.
And don’t worry, no one was insulting you…but there was misunderstanding. It happens! Like I said, it’s a nuanced language…it happens all the time to native and non-native speakers.