Does the Vatican endorse a Presidential candidate?

If so, who?

With the Pope calling for an end to the senseless war that George Bush has put us in, would the church back another candidate who supports the war?

The Church does not endorse candidates.

The war will not end simply because we pull out. Just thought that thaat desrved to be said.

The Vatican cannot endorse a candidate for the same reason your pastor cannot endorse a candidate. The Church could,. theoretically, support a candidate, but think of what implications an endorsement would have. The Vatican would be accused of meddling in foreign affairs, etc, etc…

The Church doesn’t support a presidential candidate. But, when it comes to the Iraq war, it is worth mentioning that over 1 million abortions happen PER YEAR. So I doubt even if in some way the Church did support a candidate, that she would choose a pro-abortion candidate simply because she may or may not want America out of Iraq.

Pope Benedict has called on the US to remain to provide security until the Iraqi’s can do so themselves. I kinda’ doubt he would support a policy that would call for evacuations prior to that.

He did say this in a letter to the US bishops.

Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.

nor would a candidate want to be endorsed. its gonna scare a lot of protestants.

Sounds like Obama’s plan…

Odd. I’ve never heard ANY candidate say that they were pro-abortion. Whether it is against teaching or not, pro-choice is NOT pro-abortion.

I am pro-life, but that doesn’t mean that there is no difference between those two.

Just a friendly word of advice…your application of the eighth commandment is not all too welcome in these parts. It’s customary to say the worst possible thing about anyone who does not agree with the Republican party en toto. :wink:

Thous Shalt Not Steal?

I’m not sure I follow… has a really good section on the elections and what role the Catholic Church plays. I found it really helpful because as a Catholic, I’m Pro-life, Anti-death penalty, against the Iraq War, Pro-environment…there is no one running who can satisfy all of these, so how do I choose without feeling like I’m supporting evil? This website explains all of it!

McCain is an avid flip-flopper and would turn on the party that made him at the drop of a dime on ANY issue. Pro-life today, no so much tomorrow.

If you think you can vote with a clear conscience this election - you’re wrong.

Rather, when it comes to choosing between two morally good acts each having evil effects, one may choose that act which has the lesser evil effect. To put it another way, it is sometimes morally acceptable to tolerate evil, but never acceptable actually to perform or will the evil.

That makes it easier for me to vote for someone other than John McCain.

Pro-choice means the person beleives that one of the acceptable choices is an abortion. Hence, they are OK with abortion… pro-abortion.

Paint the pig chartreuse and give it a bowtie… its still a pig.

Pro-choice=pro-abortion= approving the murder of children.

Really? When does Obama anticipate the Iraqi government being able to ensure the peace?

I have no idea. I was referring to the fact that Barack is leaving a certain amount of troops nearby to put out any hot spots that turn up after initial withdrawl.

To each his own…

And what is his plan if those troops are insufficent?

How about leaving the troops there until all the hotspots are quelled. A lot like we did for Germany and Japan after WW-II.

We stayed until they were entirely rebuilt and had begun to recognize to recognize simple things like freedom of religion and peaceful co-existance between differing political parties.

The end result is friendly, stable democracies.

Does Obama support staying until that is accomplished?


Discussion of political candidates is not allowed. Issues may be discussed, but not candidates.

:thumbsup: I am in exactly the same boat. Nice to know there is someone else out there… In our two party system (controlled by special interests), there will probably never be a candidate who encapsulates all the positions that you and I agree on. We first have an individual responsibility to not personally act in an evil fashion; as long as you are not voting for a candidate, primarily because they support a position of evil, you are probably good to go.

:rolleyes: patiently awaits the hoards of people who will scream at me to vote for their special interests under the pretext that I am not approaching the election as a “real Catholic”…