House GOP scraps vote on Sandy aid

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/01/01/house-sandy-relief-vote/1803027/

WASHINGTON – House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio indicated late Tuesday the 112th Congress would end its term without voting on federal emergency aid for victims of Superstorm Sandy.

“The speaker is committed to getting this bill passed this month,” Boehner’s spokesman, Brendan Buck, said in an email.

:coffeeread:

Okay… FEMA doesn’t need the money until Spring, so a few weeks of legislative delay might not affect the agency’s spending. But according to the news article, there are non-FEMA expenses related to recovery from Sandy. I am not sure of the effect that the delay will have on meeting the non-FEMA expenses.

Another question would be why the delay is taking place. As near as I can tell, it is related to two things. The most important would be the fiscal cliff negotiations. That bill finally passed last night (a rare evening session on New Year’s Day), but Republicans voted against the bill 2-1. They are unhappy because the bill raises taxes on the wealthiest Americans and doesn’t do anything to cut expenses. It could be that asking Republicans to hike federal spending at this point would meet with overwhelming opposition.

The other factor is that Boehner is up for re-election for Speaker of the House in a few days. He can’t afford to stir up even more Republican opposition to his leadership, since Republicans hold the majority of seats in the House.

Here is some information from The Hill

Northeast lawmakers led by Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) had been furiously whipping support for the full $60.4 billion and were increasingly confident that with near-unanimous Democratic support the bill would pass, albeit with more limited Republican support. They are worried that if the Sandy effort drags out it will be overwhelmed in a budget-cutting frenzy sure to take hold when the nation fully reaches its $16.4 billion debt ceiling by March.

Boehner is up for reelection as Speaker on Thursday, and while his authority remains intact after the fiscal-cliff crisis, it is strained. Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) all voted against the fiscal-cliff deal over its lack of spending cuts. Rising star Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) voted with the Speaker in favor of the bill.

thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/275141-boehner-committed-to-passing-sandy-aid-in-jan

Yep, It’s official. Republicans are evil. :rolleyes:

I think that assessment is a bit much. However, the timing of a major spending bill in the context of the fiscal cliff battle may have been unsaleable. I think there is a great deal of unhappiness with the bill which was passed last night. Republicans were looking for spending cuts and no tax increases, and that didn’t happen.

I think that is right. The president called for a balanced approach to the deficit and yet forced the House to accept only a tax increase with zero spending cuts. Asking for $60 billion in additional spending at this time just wasn’t likely to be successful.

Peace

Tim

Peter King was just on Fox berating his own party…the Republicans are in complete disarray.

John

Especially for a bill that is loaded with pork spending for all sorts of things besides the Sandy cleanup.

breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/18/Conservative-Watchdog-Groups-Discover-Sandy-Relief-Bill-Filled-With-Pork-Unrelated-To-Disaster-Relief

Taxpayers for Common Sense found the bill spent “$20,000 to buy a new car for the Department of Justice inspector general, allows the government to rebuild or relocate flood-prone state facilities in 30 states, has $821 million for dredging projects nationwide and allows loan cancellations for Hurricane Katrina-related loans” in addition to lowering the bar for the “Army Corps of Engineers projects to receive government funding” while increasing funding for Amtrak.

King disagrees with Breibart…he just said that all pork had been removed. He is so livid that he said they will have to go a long way to get his vote on anything in the future.

I can’t wait to hear from Christie.

John

There’s no constitutional basis for using taxpayer money to benefit people hit by natural disasters, so in that sense it’s good it didn’t pass. It’s also good because it’s not the government’s job to take money from one group of people (in this case future generations since the money would come through new debt) and give it to another even if it was constitutional. Another reason it’s good is that even if the government had constitutional authority to do this and it was their job to do so, they’d be incredibly wasteful in doing it, so private charity/insurance would a better option. Some may disagree with the last statement, but that’s a matter of personal philosophy.

On the other hand it’s amusing people get bent out of shape on Sandy spending but no one will touch any of the other much more expensive government expenditures.

You are right. Rep. King and other congressmen and senators from the affected states aside, the republicans are trying to survive in a country where the majority wants things given to them by the federal government (you know, ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you) and has just re-elected a president and senate that ran on that approach. Unfortunately, basic economics dictate that we can’t keep spending at the rate we are now. Since the senate majority leader and the president both refused to consider ANY spending cuts at this time, the only way to prevent worse damage to the country was for the House to agree to raising taxes on those who have been demonized by the left. Even that is largely symbolic since it won’t do much towards helping solve the problems we have, but it makes a lot of envious people feel good. Spending $60 billion right now is not going to get support from the House.

You can gloat all you want, but gloating is part of why there was no chance to get a relief bill passed before the end of this congress. It is also a big part of the problem this country has.

Peace

Tim

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Seriously. They should be goose-stepping like the brownshirts on the other side of the isle.

You do understand that the Preamble of the Constitution is merely an introduction. It doesn’t grant any power or authority to anyone. It is simply stating that “We, the People” are establishing this Constitution for the following reasons…" The actual assignment of power is contained in the articles. C’mon, you’re a history guy, you should know this by now.

That was a helpful and well-considered post Scott.

John

I’m sure there was never any “pork” to begin with. They are all worthy expenditures of the people’s hard earned money. :rolleyes:

It sets out the general goals of the constitution. Not everything can be specifically written in or you end up with a document that is unworkable and useless like the Pennsylvania state constitution.

John

Just a simple observation.

Goals =/= power or authority

Agreed. It sets out the goals - not the rules. I serious doubt their goal was a bloated bureaucracy that is totally on responsive to the people and spends trillions more than it takes in. Or is there a secret paragraph?

Its in the unpublished Article VIII