Many Protestants contest that they will not follow man made traditions and the Catholic Church Traditions are unreliable. Protestant’s will say “I trust the Bible”
Well this is simple rhetoric that is not true. Any protestant trusting Bible alone is in fact trusting a Man made tradition.
How does a Protestant know the Bible is the word of God. Well someone told them that it was. The Bible is not explicit in its sole role of authority and Many other Text’s such as the Koran say they are directly from God. It is Catholic Tradition that states that the Bible is inspired and Man made tradition says that it is the “Sole rule of Faith.” Martin Luther is a man and he began the teaching of Sola scriptura."
All protestants who believe in “the bible alone,” believe in a man made tradition. This began with the Reformers, esp. Martin Luther in the 16th century.
Additionally, Protestants interpretation of the Bible are in and of themselves traditions of men…
Sola Fide and Scriptura - Luther Traditional Interpretation
Predestination - Calvin Tradition
Presbyterianism - John Knox
American Baptist’s theology - Roger Williams etc…
The list goes on and on. All of these men had the same bible but came to different conclusions, just as different protestant Church’s today follow the “Bible Alone,” but come to different conclusions. In actuality, Protestant’s today follow their personal interpretation, that of their pastor, or denomination. Same bible, same word, the difference is Traditions of Men.
The Catholic on the other hand admits tradition. It however, follows Apostolic Traditions. That means that Catholic teaching must agree with historical Church teaching that can be traced back to the Early Church who was taught by the Apostles. The Catholic Church cannot make up a new doctrines without consulting previous Christian teachings unlike protestant Doctrine which come from an idea of a Man. In this way Scripture and Apostolic Tradition of the CC are congruent with history and each other.
Protestantism can all be traced back to the “ideas of Men” and their PERSONAL interpretation of the bible. It failed to exist before the 16th century so either those taught by the Apostles, and their successors are wrong OR Protestantism is a simply a Tradition of men and is flawed.
Every new interpretation of the Bible that is not in congruence with historical Christian belief is in itself new and a Man Made Tradition.
If a ProphetMessenger received a revelation from GodAllahYHWH to perform an act for convenience of the followers to be done on daily, weakly or mothly basis; and it is performed strictly under GodAllahYHWH’s intructions, that action is in fact, in my opinion a part of the revelation and would be **TRADITION PROPER **which should be distinct from other, which are not to be done so frequetly and have been collected much later.
I am not sure that I understand your response. What are you trying to say? perhaps I simply do not understand the language that you you use or you do not understand the questions that I bring up. Language can be very confusing.
If a ProphetMessenger received a revelation from GodAllahYHWH to perform an act for convenience of the followers to be done on daily, weakly or mothly basis; and it is performed strictly under GodAllahYHWH’s intructions, that action is in fact, in my opinion a part of the revelation and would be TRADITION PROPER which should be distinct from other, which are not to be done so frequetly and have been collected much later.
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I wanted to say that if GodAllahYHWH wants that an acts should be done by the believers at regular intervals and that could be best understood by demonstration of the ProphetMessenger, so that act would be a tradition done under direct commandment of the scritpure, those acts are TRADITION PROPER because GodAllahYHWH wanted that that should be done by the believers.
The rest reported by or narrated by others are not that important things and** could only form a part of the tradition if these are not against the ScripturesProper** (the Word of GodAllahYHWH) revealed on the ProphetMessenger. Such news or traditon collected very late, have all the possibility to mislead the believers if against the ScriptureProper or the TraditionProper as explained by me above.
If GodAllahYHWH had wanted that the believers must do certain things, then He would have instructed His ProphetMessenger to do that act, and he would have set his followers on those things definitely before his disapearance (or death).
I think I have explained the phenomenon reasonably.
No, it wouldn’t. it would be a new thing that God had told that person to do (or that person believed God had told him to do).
It would not become tradition until the practice of doing that thing was to be handed on (tradere) to others, who would keep this custom and continue to hand it on to others.
Originally Posted by **Daniel Marsh **
He is simply saying if God tells you to do something, than that something is God ordained tradition.
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I think I have cleared this point in one of my later posts, post # 6 above. I was referring to any ProphetMessenger who is commanded to do something by GodAllahYHWH , not some believer later.
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