An anonymous woman has sparked debate by asking pro-life advocates to donate $1.3 million to halt her abortion procedure

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AN ANONYMOUS woman has raised a difficult moral question by ultimately holding her unborn baby ransom unless she receives $US1 million in donations.
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The woman, believed to be from the US, has set up a website which is ostensibly an offer to “pro-lifers” to prevent an abortion. If she reaches her million dollar target, she said she will go through with the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption.
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“I am a twenty-six-year-old female and I am currently 7 weeks pregnant. I have every intention of having an abortion, but I’m giving you a chance to stop it,” her online appeal reads.
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Sounds like ransom to me. I wouldn’t give her a penny.

Best case scenario she is scamming pro-lifers.
 
I guess it would determine how much we think life is worth.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I guess it would determine how much we think life is worth.
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Some psychopath attempts to extort money using the life of her unborn child and that is somehow determinate of what we think life is worth? I don’t think so.
 
Michael1978 said:
Some psychopath attempts to extort money using the life of her unborn child and that is somehow determinate of what we think life is worth? I don’t think so.
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So the kid deserves to die because the mother is a psychopath?
 
Michael1978 said:
So she has the right to extort money from individuals using the life of her child? How much are you donating?
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In my opinion, it would depend on her sincerity, Id want to know a little more about her and her lifestyle/ past history, but if that all checked out, and it wasnt some sort of stunt, calling it extortion is jumping to conclusions. I would be willing to donate a little bit, I mean, we are told we are priceless, so 1.3 million is much less than what a human life is actually worth
 
mikekle said:
In my opinion, it would depend on her sincerity, Id want to know a little more about her and her lifestyle/ past history, but if that all checked out, and it wasnt some sort of stunt, calling it extortion is jumping to conclusions. I would be willing to donate a little bit, I mean, we are told we are priceless, so 1.3 million is much less than what a human life is actually worth
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Threatening to kill your child unless you are paid X amount of dollars is the definition of extortion. Her sincerity and lifestyle is of no significance. This is a sick individual that should be arrested and thrown in jail.
 
Assuming she’s telling the truth, and not just a scammer, then she is no different from a kidnapper who holds a hostage for ransom and threatens to kill them if the ransom is not paid.

The moral responsibility for both actions - the threatened murder, and the attempted extortion, are hers, and hers alone.
 
Michael1978 said:
Again, how much are you donating to the cause? She is the only morally culpable person in this situation, not society at large.
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I am not talking about moral culpability. I am talking about how much we are willing to sacrifice to save a life. So, you are saying that children of psychopaths are not worth much?
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I am not talking about moral culpability. I am talking about how much we are willing to sacrifice to save a life. So, you are saying that children of psychopaths are not worth much?
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I reject your premise entirely. This is extortion, plain and simple. Any child’s life is priceless; shall we raise a billion dollars for this one? And how much for the next? The value of the child is not the issue here, it’s that a woman is willing to murder her unborn child unless she can extort an large sum of money from members of society. But since you buy in to her scheme, how much are you donating?
 
I think it’s a trick. She is hoping that nobody will donate so that she can claim that we are not truly pro-life. Maybe I’ll give $1 as a symbolic gesture but I’d have to think about it.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I am not talking about moral culpability. I am talking about how much we are willing to sacrifice to save a life. So, you are saying that children of psychopaths are not worth much?
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You can’t separate moral culpability from this but considering your dissent on other Catholic teaching its not surprising.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
I am not talking about moral culpability. I am talking about how much we are willing to sacrifice to save a life. So, you are saying that children of psychopaths are not worth much?
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No, it’s saying that children do not come with a pricetag. Their value is not determined by economic considerations. To give into her demand is to subscribe to her mentality - that everything of value, even the lives of human beings, has a price tag.

This is extortion; worse, in fact, because it isn’t merely an attempt to extort money, it’s an attempt to extort from others the compromise of their ethical principles. It attempts to foist the blame for a heinous act on the good will of others, thereby offloading responsibility. She will claim, “It was THEIR fault that I had my child was aborted because THEY didn’t do anything to save the child.”

It is win-win for her alone.

If money isn’t paid she will point the finger of blame at prolifers because they didn’t do what they should have (according to her) to save the child.
If money is paid, she will be reassured that morality, even where the life of a child is concerned, can be bought and sold at market value so anyone is “free” to abort any child they can’t afford because now the “price” of a child has been determined by the market at the going rate.
 
This is just sick all around…

Is there really any proof that this woman actually exists? That she’s actually pregnant? That she’s actually considering an abortion?

If this pays out for her – in any amount of money – what’s to stop women and their partners from getting pregnant just to put their baby “on the market” with this same tactic?

“Give me money and I’ll let the child live and give it to someone. Don’t give me my demanded price, and I’ll kill the child.”

Assuming this is a real woman who is actually pregnant, this isn’t just extortion. This woman is selling a baby!

God have mercy on us all!
 
From the woman’s website ProlifeAntiwoman:
“I will do my best to remain anonymous in this process as what I aim to prove has nothing to do with me personally. I hope to give the American public a concrete example that the conservative right in America doesn’t actually care about the life of a child, they care about controlling the lives and choices of women. We have to acknowledge this and we have to stop it.”
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She claims all the money will be put into a trust fund for the child:
“If one million dollars is raised in those 72 hours then I’ll have the baby, give it up for adoption and every cent of that one million dollars will be put in a trust fund for the child, which he or she will have access to when they turn 21.”
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And if you believe that, then I’ve got a lovely bridge in London to sell you.

DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD of this until her anonymity has been broken!

Personally, I’m going to forward her website to our local news stations as well as the national affiliates. And I would encourage you all to do the same! 👍
 
Peter_Plato said:
No, it’s saying that children do not come with a pricetag. Their value is not determined by economic considerations. To give into her demand is to subscribe to her mentality - that everything of value, even the lives of human beings, has a price tag.

This is extortion; worse, in fact, because it isn’t merely an attempt to extort money, it’s an attempt to extort from others the compromise of their ethical principles. It attempts to foist the blame for a heinous act on the good will of others, thereby offloading responsibility. She will claim, “It was THEIR fault that I had my child was aborted because THEY didn’t do anything to save the child.”

It is win-win for her alone.

If money isn’t paid she will point the finger of blame at prolifers because they didn’t do what they should have (according to her) to save the child.
If money is paid, she will be reassured that morality, even where the life of a child is concerned, can be bought and sold at market value so anyone is “free” to abort any child they can’t afford because now the “price” of a child has been determined by the market at the going rate.
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Thank you. That’s very well put.
 
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