An anonymous woman has sparked debate by asking pro-life advocates to donate $1.3 million to halt her abortion procedure

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I think it’s a trick. She is hoping that nobody will donate so that she can claim that we are not truly pro-life. Maybe I’ll give $1 as a symbolic gesture but I’d have to think about it.
I think you are right. She gives an impossible challenge then when it fails, claims it as some sort of “evidence”. I do not think she is greedy because she knows no one is going to pay her for being evil. I believe she is ignorant, and playing on the ignorance of others.
 
You can’t separate moral culpability from this but considering your dissent on other Catholic teaching its not surprising.
What Catholic teaching do I dissent on? That is an honest question, I cannot think of any area where I disagree with Catholic doctrine.
 
Pay the money.
Put the baby up for adoption.
Arrest the woman for blackmail/extortion.
Seize the money under felony arrest forfeiture provisions.
Give the money back to the donors.
Let the woman rot in prison.
 
DON’T do it. I work with 2D-3D images and I’ve seen the picture she is using posted in images when I searched one time for pregnant women to create a mood board. Plus, if it were a life size picture of her, the pixels would not be distorted. Scam.

Love to all and still praying for your trials,
Sheila
 
DON’T do it. I work with 2D-3D images and I’ve seen the picture she is using posted in images when I searched one time for pregnant women to create a mood board. Plus, if it were a life size picture of her, the pixels would not be distorted. Scam.

Love to all and still praying for your trials,
Sheila
That’s not her website. That’s the Australian news article.

Here is her website:

www.prolifeantiwoman.com

Again, I think we should do it, and propagate this - over the news, over Facebook, Twitter, wherever we can. It would be an excellent time to put our money where our mouth is, and demonstrate that pro-lifers and Christians are reckless in our love of neighbor. We could really show them that #lovewins.

It would be a victory, even if we could only raise, say, $100,000. I think, with enough publicity, we can do it.

And Phil has a gofundme site set up towards that ends, so that, even if we don’t raise enough, we can still donate it to a pro-life charity:

gofundme.com/yb7yd5ng
 
What Catholic teaching do I dissent on? That is an honest question, I cannot think of any area where I disagree with Catholic doctrine.
About 2 months ago Pope Francis called the Gender Pay Gap A ‘Pure Scandal’. It was determined that the biggest contributor to this pay gap is unpaid maternity leave which currently exists in the US. I had specifically asked you if you thought that maternity leave should be paid as you are well known for opposing Medicare part that included prescription medications. You are opposed to it because SS isn’t covering it and is financed through general taxation. You indicated that maternity leave shouldn’t be financed.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=12940963

Now in fairness I shouldn’t have accused you of Catholic dissent because what the Pope said wasn’t official Catholic teaching. However as Catholics we should give religious assent to when the Pope speaks on matters like this.
 
About 2 months ago Pope Francis called the Gender Pay Gap A ‘Pure Scandal’. It was determined that the biggest contributor to this pay gap is unpaid maternity leave which currently exists in the US. I had specifically asked you if you thought that maternity leave should be paid as you are well known for opposing Medicare part that included prescription medications. You are opposed to it because SS isn’t covering it and is financed through general taxation. You indicated that maternity leave shouldn’t be financed.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=12940963

Now in fairness I shouldn’t have accused you of Catholic dissent because what the Pope said wasn’t official Catholic teaching. However as Catholics we should give religious assent to when the Pope speaks on matters like this.
Has the Church taught that we must be in favor or either medicare or paid maternity leave? If it has not then you can hardly accuse me of dissenting on Church teaching.
 
I wouldn’t give her anything. I wouldn’t waste my time trying to find out how legitimate this woman’s story is.
I am concerned about the life of her unborn baby because the baby has the right to a full 9 months term so he/she can be born. The baby is God’s miracle. She should put the baby up for adoption.

What this woman is doing is totally sick.
 
I went to her website and read her statement…to me, it nearly sounds like one of those emails we all receive saying that they are so and so from Kenya and they would love to share the fortune that has come into their hands. All you have to do is send your name and your bank information so that they can send you the money—hmm…I wonder how many gullible people have fallen for that.

It would be an unbelievable shame if this is true on so many levels. Extortion, basically slavery, and so many other things that I can’t put into words. The selling of a child? This woman should be found out.
 
I’ve been scanning the pro-life sites, seeing if anyone is giving a response to this situation, a Lila Rose or someone. I haven’t seen anyone doing so yes.

It is disgraceful, it is a bit like asking ransom for a kidnapping.

It could also be something done for a Pro-Choice reason, a scheme, a ploy.
 
Again, I say we start collecting money now.

gofundme.com/yb7yd5ng

Pay her and make it PUBLIC regarding who she is. She is a swine.

If she’s a swine of her word, she will not have the abortion and place all the money in a trust fund for the child.

If she’s a swine not of her word, the whole world will find out and make the pro choice movement look bad.
 
That’s not her website. That’s the Australian news article.

Here is her website:

www.prolifeantiwoman.com

Again, I think we should do it, and propagate this - over the news, over Facebook, Twitter, wherever we can. It would be an excellent time to put our money where our mouth is, and demonstrate that pro-lifers and Christians are reckless in our love of neighbor. We could really show them that #lovewins.

It would be a victory, even if we could only raise, say, $100,000. I think, with enough publicity, we can do it.

And Phil has a gofundme site set up towards that ends, so that, even if we don’t raise enough, we can still donate it to a pro-life charity:

gofundme.com/yb7yd5ng
I am somewhat sympathetic to your determination to act if we simply ignore everything else about this woman’s plan and focus strictly on the life of the child. It would seem that, aside from everything else, paying a million dollars to save the life of a child would be a good thing to do.

The problem is that doing so reinforces a particular mindset prevalent among many these days and definitely behind the motivations of this woman. That mindset is that no matter what I do, as a human being, someone else will fix the problem. It is the mindset that drives leftist ideologies and much of what lies behind hot button social and moral issues such as abortion, SSM and euthanasia, among others.

This woman has made a choice to have sex. From that choice a child is now in her womb. Her solution isn’t to take responsibility for the life she has created, it is to foist responsibility for that life onto others by extorting the good will of others to pay for the child and calling upon the willingness of others to raise it. The manner that she has chosen to bring this about is to issue a threat to the child. I will kill you if someone else doesn’t pony up.

This is the same mindset that drives modern western left leaning democracies. Many citizens of those “modern” countries have abdicated morality precisely because they have found a political “body” that promises to look after every mistake they will ever possibility make. The more that “social” programs broaden and promise to cover every aspect of life, including people’s penchant for making gross moral errors, the more that those who make those errors will be enabled to make even more or worse errors without consequence. Someone else will underwrite moral failures and indecency, and a particular political platform has promised to bring into governance even better and more far reaching ways of abetting those moral failures and lapses of responsibility.

This woman is merely taking advantage of the good will of others to underwrite her moral failures. If she were, at all, a thoughtful, moral, human being, she would realize this, take personal responsibility for the child in her womb and stop trying to see her own moral failures as a failure of others to “care” about HER child in HER womb. If she aborts this child, she alone will be responsible, no matter how much she tries to offload her guilt onto pro-lifers. This is her doing and her doing alone. She will be held accountable for it.

As a society, we are not helping the situation one bit by enabling her scheme. In fact, I would suggest that her success, much like terrorist demands being met, will only encourage others to do the same. In the end, those paying the piper will not be the ones enjoying the song. Evil will continue to be done even more freely and irresponsibly while the good-hearted will be footing more and more of the bill.

It is time to draw the line as to where the personal responsibility of every human being lies and not succumb to being guilted into abetting the wrongs of immoral individuals by allowing them to pass off moral responsibility onto those who are already living morally responsible lives. It is time to grow a backbone and walk upright.

This is her choice, one for which she alone will be responsible. God be with the child. If she were to have a complete change of heart, see where her responsibility lies vis a vis the child she has helped to bring into the world and, then, be willing to raise the child there might be a case for funding to be made. I just think this sends the wrong message about how the good will of others should be accessed. Certainly not the way she has chosen to do it.
 
I am somewhat sympathetic to your determination to act if we simply ignore everything else about this woman’s plan and focus strictly on the life of the child. It would seem that, aside from everything else, paying a million dollars to save the life of a child would be a good thing to do.

The problem is that doing so reinforces a particular mindset prevalent among many these days and definitely behind the motivations of this woman. That mindset is that no matter what I do, as a human being, someone else will fix the problem. It is the mindset that drives leftist ideologies and much of what lies behind hot button social and moral issues such as abortion, SSM and euthanasia, among others.

This woman has made a choice to have sex. From that choice a child is now in her womb. Her solution isn’t to take responsibility for the life she has created, it is to foist responsibility for that life onto others by extorting the good will of others to pay for the child and calling upon the willingness of others to raise it. The manner that she has chosen to bring this about is to issue a threat to the child. I will kill you if someone else doesn’t pony up.

This is the same mindset that drives modern western left leaning democracies. Many citizens of those “modern” countries have abdicated morality precisely because they have found a political “body” that promises to look after every mistake they will ever possibility make. The more that “social” programs broaden and promise to cover every aspect of life, including people’s penchant for making gross moral errors, the more that those who make those errors will be enabled to make even more or worse errors without consequence. Someone else will underwrite moral failures and indecency, and a particular political platform has promised to bring into governance even better and more far reaching ways of abetting those moral failures and lapses of responsibility.

This woman is merely taking advantage of the good will of others to underwrite her moral failures. If she were, at all, a thoughtful, moral, human being, she would realize this, take personal responsibility for the child in her womb and stop trying to see her own moral failures as a failure of others to “care” about HER child in HER womb. If she aborts this child, she alone will be responsible, no matter how much she tries to offload her guilt onto pro-lifers. This is her doing and her doing alone. She will be held accountable for it.

As a society, we are not helping the situation one bit by enabling her scheme. In fact, I would suggest that her success, much like terrorist demands being met, will only encourage others to do the same. In the end, those paying the piper will not be the ones enjoying the song. Evil will continue to be done even more freely and irresponsibly while the good-hearted will be footing more and more of the bill.

It is time to draw the line as to where the personal responsibility of every human being lies and not succumb to being guilted into abetting the wrongs of immoral individuals by allowing them to pass off moral responsibility onto those who are already living morally responsible lives. It is time to grow a backbone and walk upright.

This is her choice, one for which she alone will be responsible. God be with the child. If she were to have a complete change of heart, see where her responsibility lies vis a vis the child she has helped to bring into the world and, then, be willing to raise the child there might be a case for funding to be made. I just think this sends the wrong message about how the good will of others should be accessed. Certainly not the way she has chosen to do it.
Wonderful post. I agree wholeheartedly. :tiphat:
 
That’s actually her proposal.

I just found the link from another post: prolifeantiwoman.com/

Her letter is the cover page. I say we call her bluff by giving the child more than she’s asking, but make sure we expose her and remove her anonymity .
I say SCAM.

It looks like the site is hosted on a computer in Malaysia.
 
Sounds like a scam…and an intentially absurd challenge to pro life advocates.
Hope no one is gullible enough to bite.
I was thinking it sounds like all of those emails where they say you’ve won a lot of money, now we need your bank account information. eta: I see that some other posters have already mentioned this possibility.

Or the calls I’ve gotten that tell us there’s a problem with our windows software, when we only have a Mac.

If she’s for real, she should be working with actual pro-life organizations in person rather than do this.
 
She could also take all the donations, even if her demands are met, and still have the abortion.

Nobody here is devaluing the life of the child. Those who refuse to give in to her demands are refusing to play her game of blackmail. She’s not getting a penny from me.

As others have mentioned, she might not even be pregnant. She may just collect all the money to “show” how gullible pro-lifers are.

Bottom line, this person is a sociopath any way you slice it.
She may not even exist. She could be a man, or a group of people such as teenagers looking to stir up controversy. snopes.com investigates some internet rumors. I don’t know if they’d take on this situation. I sent them an email to see if they’d investigate it.
 
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