Another Liturgy Of The Hours Question

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I checked out the online Liturgy Of The Hours sites that were mentioned on one of the recent threads - Universalis.com and LiturgyHours.org.

Does anyone use these?

I use the single volume Christian Prayer for Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer and was interested in exploring the Office Of Readings without going to the expense of buying the volume.

From what I can see of these 2 sites, I like LiturgyHours.org better . . . but I don’t get how the little daily printed booklets work. When I tried to read today’s Office Of Readings it looked like the pages didn’t flow right . . . the psalms etc. skipped around alot.

I don’t think I’m having a computer problem and I’m using the version of Adobe they say I need. Is there a logic to this I’m not getting?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hi!

I like the site: www.prayday.com . I think the format is easier to read. I ususally just click on the day of the week and then
click on the “display” icon and up will pop the whole day for you.

I have the complete set in books to, but I do the morning and
evening prayers at home and have this web site to bring up
at work when I have free time, I can read the office of the
readings!

Your sister in Christ!
Debbie:blessyou:
 
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DBT:
From what I can see of these 2 sites, I like LiturgyHours.org better . . . but I don’t get how the little daily printed booklets work. When I tried to read today’s Office Of Readings it looked like the pages didn’t flow right . . . the psalms etc. skipped around alot.

I don’t think I’m having a computer problem and I’m using the version of Adobe they say I need. Is there a logic to this I’m not getting?

Thanks in advance!
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I don’t use the sites myself, but I’ve looked at them (I prefer my hardcopies). I believe the booklets are intended to be printed duplex (doublesided) then opitionally stapled in the middle and folder over into a …well… booklet. That would explain the “skipping around”, since page 1 & page N print on one side of one sheet, then page 2 & page N - 1 on the other side of that sheet, et cetera.

Use the “display format” to avoid the skipping.
 
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MAGDALENE27:
I ususally just click on the day of the week and then click on the “display” icon and up will pop the whole day for you.

I have the complete set in books to, but I do the morning and
evening prayers at home and have this web site to bring up
at work when I have free time, I can read the office of the
readings!
:
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Thanks! This fixed my problem. It looks like these 2 sites are one and the same. I picked the “display” option like you mentioned and the whole day appeared perfectly. I was choosing the “booklet” option previously . . . I just don’t get what that is trying to do. The formating looks a little goofy to me.

It sounds like we have the same idea . . . Morning and Evening prayer at home, Office Of The Readings on the PC during work. It’s a great way to spend the day!

Thanks again!
 
Hey ther DBT!

You asked: “but I don’t get how the little daily printed booklets work. When I tried to read today’s Office Of Readings it looked like the pages didn’t flow right . . . the psalms etc. skipped around alot.” You may be using the wrong guide for you volume.

Inside the front page, on the bottom you will find a number just above the publisher’s information - mine says T-406, but there are others. It may be on the inside page near the Imprimatur also. Obviously different volumes have it in different locations. You need the Guide that matches this number or you’ll be using it in vain. The best way to get the right one is to take your Volume to the local Catholic bookstore and ask them to give you the correct Guide. If you can’t do this try contacting a Catholic book publishing website and try that way.

I use the St. Joseph’s Guide for Christian Prayer. It comes out each year shortly before the year ends and I replace it right around Christmas each year. One year I forgot and boy o boy was I lost for the first few days of the New Year!

Peace and all good,

Thomas2
 
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I don’t use the sites myself, but I’ve looked at them (I prefer my hardcopies). I believe the booklets are intended to be printed duplex (doublesided) then opitionally stapled in the middle and folder over into a …well… booklet. That would explain the “skipping around”, since page 1 & page N print on one side of one sheet, then page 2 & page N - 1 on the other side of that sheet, et cetera.

Use the “display format” to avoid the skipping.
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Yes, I think that would explain it. As you and Magdalene27 mentioned, the “display” option is probably the best way to use this site. Like you, I prefer praying from the book but this site looks like it will come in handy for times when I’m at work.

Thanks!
 
P.S. Here’s a little known item about the Liturgy of the Hours. If you miss an hour, a Rosary may be said in its place. How this works it this - suppose you are running late for work and you haven’t yet said the Morning hour, then you might say a Rosary on the way to work as a substitute. Or perhaps you’re going to be out late at night and when you get home you’re zonked. You can say a Rosary instead of the Evening prayer you missed. I must say the Rosary on the way to work in the car has worked for me more than once! LOL. 🙂

Peace and all good,

Thomas2
 
I have two of the four volume set (Lent/Easter and Advent/Christmas seasons) for thew Liturgy of the Hours. I use them when I can, but rarely seem to have the time for the full length. So I use what is basicaly an abbreviated liturgy of the hours for Morning and Evening prayer: Magnificat magazine. It has an abbreviated morning and evening prayer, all the daily and Sunday Mass readings and other articles, prayers and hymns. And it can fit in your hip pocket. It is a monthy pubication. Try it, you will love it. You can get it here:

magnificat.net/
 
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Thomas2:
I must say the Rosary on the way to work in the car has worked for me more than once! LOL. 🙂
Thomas2
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It’s funny you should mention that. One of the ways that I know I’m truely blessed is that the length of my commute to work - from pulling out of my driveway to pulling into the parking space - is EXACTLY one rosary!
 
Interestingly the Rosary has always been a substitute for the LOTH.

It has it’s origins as a substitute. The reason is that literacy had not reached the spectacular levels we have in most modern countries today until very recent times.

The 150 Psalms could be prayed in a monastic setting where there were always some individuals who could read scripture. In those days it was common for the entire community to sit for readings (books were expensive). Those cenobites who could not read would be exposed to them so often that memorization was common. It is also easier to memorize writings that are set to melodies.

Many of the more devout laypeople (most of whom would never achieve literacy and had to live in the world) substituted the 150 Hail Marys for the 150 Psalms. Breaking them up with PaterNosters helped them keep count. This second devotion caught on, the Mysteries were added later and I think they are the real genious of the devotion.

But we shouldn’t think that it is necessary to make a temporary substitute for an hour, because that misses the whole point of the devotion and one can become too scrupulous about it, so if we miss an hour we miss an hour. Some people think that they should have to “catch up” or somehow make good, not so! Just go to the next appropriate hour when the time is right.

For my spontaneous prayer I always choose the Jesus Prayer, one can fit it in at anytime. Any prayer, even silent wordless contemplation, is good prayer. God can see into our hearts, and knows exactly what is there.

Michael
 
So here’s another question (and from one who’s prayed the LotH off and on for 20+ years – You’re never too old to learn, unless you fear asking questions!)

Today is the Memorial of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (Sat following second Sun after Pentecost). The proper on p 1159 of the CBP Christian Prayer includes an antiphon for Evening Prayer. Why is this done, if the following day is always Sunday, with its own proper antiphon for EP I? Is it just for those places where today’s office is celebrated with greater somlemnity? (eg a parish under the patronage of the IHM)
:confused:

PS
Happy IHM ❤️ everybody 🙂
 
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So here’s another question (and from one who’s prayed the LotH off and on for 20+ years – You’re never too old to learn, unless you fear asking questions!)

Today is the Memorial of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (Sat following second Sun after Pentecost). The proper on p 1159 of the CBP Christian Prayer includes an antiphon for Evening Prayer. Why is this done, if the following day is always Sunday, with its own proper antiphon for EP I? Is it just for those places where today’s office is celebrated with greater somlemnity? (eg a parish under the patronage of the IHM)
:confused:

%between%
PS
Happy IHM ❤️ everybody 🙂
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That is the antiphon for the Canticle of Mary, which on a memorial, is always taken from the Proper if one is assigned. The reference is #235b of the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours which you can find here: www.catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/documentText/Index/2/SubIndex/39/ContentIndex/37/Start/2
 
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dantheman:
That is the antiphon for the Canticle of Mary, which on a memorial, is always taken from the Proper if one is assigned. The reference is #235b of the General Instruction of the Liturgy of the Hours which you can find here: www.catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/documentText/Index/2/SubIndex/39/ContentIndex/37/Start/2
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Yes, but the XII Sunday (ranked as a solemnity) also has a Proper (of Seasons) antiphon, and takes precedence, as seen in the General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar, Table of Liturgical Days, Nos 6 and 10.
(But if the IHM is celebrated as a solemnity, as above, it would take precedence, by No 3, I think)

Disclaimer: Everything I’ve written might be wrong. :whacky:
 
Also a question on the same topic. I use the Christian Prayer: LOT, Daughters of st Paul ed. 1976.
Sometimes I read the Office of Readings and would like to get the reading for the day, which minu usually doesnt include. But comparing the calendars used in universalis.com or other sites there’s always a difference in first (from the Bible) reading, eg today its Malachi, but according to my calendar reading for 28. week should be Jer. 7:1-20.
Hannes
 
The cheapest edition is the free one that I’ll be putting online shortly. Anyone willing to help with this job of putting the Divine Office into electronic format, please let me know. God bless
 
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