Attacks on Catholic Church

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Hey guys I have a couple of questions which have been asked by unbelievers to me, i didnt know how to respond.
  1. The catholic priest I know has a 20-30k dollar car…and I should give money to the church?
  2. The catholic church has so much money, gold, so why are they asking for money?
  3. Why is the church asking for money from poor people to build church or renovate the building…what about vatican… it has so much moeny invested yet church is asking money from poor people?
  4. Why do you need to go to church if you can pray privately? Isn’t God omnipresent?
Please let me know how I can respond to these questions.
 
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Polska:
Hey guys I have a couple of questions which have been asked by unbelievers to me, i didnt know how to respond.
  1. The catholic priest I know has a 20-30k dollar car…and I should give money to the church?
  2. The catholic church has so much money, gold, so why are they asking for money?
  3. Why is the church asking for money from poor people to build church or renovate the building…what about vatican… it has so much moeny invested yet church is asking money from poor people?
  4. Why do you need to go to church if you can pray privately? Isn’t God omnipresent?
Please let me know how I can respond to these questions.
The Church is not asking for money, God is. Actually He just wants to see how you value money. Do you make it more important than Him? Which god do you serve? As for what the church does with the mone, my response it this “I give tithes to the Church…what the Church does with it is between them and God.”

#4 You are right, God is everywhere and you can pray privately…however, I am not the same everywhere. I go to Church to hear the teaching on the Gospel and to fellowhsip with my fellow Catholics. OH AND, I don’t have the Eucharist at home.
 
When people complain that churches are too fancy (“Quick Questions,” January 2003), I wonder what kind of homes they live in. As Haggai asked, “Is it a time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses, while this [God’s] house lies in ruins?” (Haggai 1:4).

I remember that liberal talk show host Phil Donahue claimed the reason he left the Church was that he couldn’t see spending on a church money that could have been given to the poor. Some years after that, he complained that conservatives kept him out of a yacht club he wanted to join.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church says that the vocation of sacred art is “evoking and glorifying, in faith and adoration, the transcendent mystery of God—the surpassing invisible beauty of truth and love visible in Christ, who ‘reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature.’. . . Genuine sacred art draws man to adoration, to prayer, and to the love of God” (CCC 2502). Churches are like art museums in that they provide art and beauty to people who can’t afford a rowboat, let alone membership in a yacht club.

source: catholic.com/thisrock/2003/0304ltrs.asp

Q: I’m sure you hear this all the time, but I’m looking for a concise and convincing way of answering objections to the wealth of the Church.

A: Most objections about the Church’s alleged wealth is in regard to the art in the Vatican. Most of the art represents the work of Christians who wanted to place their talents at the service of God through the Church. The artwork is an example of their religiosity and is not for sale. Had the Church not preserved the art, much of it would have been destroyed through the ages. Such art is part of our heritage as Christians and indeed as human beings, and few people of any persuasion who appreciate such world culture would truly prefer that these treasures have been put into the control of secular commerce.

In Matthew 26:6ff we read, “A woman came up to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive ointment, and she poured it on his head as he sat at table. But when the disciples saw it, they were indignant, saying, ‘Why this waste? For the ointment might have been sold for a large sum and given to the poor.’ But Jesus, aware of this, said to them, ‘Why do you trouble the woman? For she has done a beautiful thing to me. For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me.”

Likewise, many of the great cathedrals of Europe were built with donations and labor from the poor, who wanted to build such monuments to God’s goodness and sovereignty. The Vatican does not control enormous liquid wealth, and its annual operating budget has been compared to that of a large archdiocese such as that of Chicago.

In spite of this, the Catholic Church is still one of the most giving institutions on earth, running and supporting countless charities, relief organizations, hospitals, and similar enterprises at great cost to the Church.

source: catholic.com/thisrock/2003/0301qq.asp

You have to have donations to keep up the Church’s charitable activities. It’s just another form of service.

Although we should pray every chance we get, we still need to worship God on his terms as taught by the Church he established and vested with teaching authority.
 
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Polska:
Hey guys I have a couple of questions which have been asked by unbelievers to me, i didnt know how to respond.
  1. The catholic priest I know has a 20-30k dollar car…and I should give money to the church?
Priests make between 15,000 and 18,000 dolars per year on the high end. That is far below what someone is expected to live upon.
  1. The catholic church has so much money, gold, so why are they asking for money?
No they don’t. Please prove it.
  1. Why is the church asking for money from poor people to build church or renovate the building…what about vatican… it has so much moeny invested yet church is asking money from poor people?
Same answer as above.
  1. Why do you need to go to church if you can pray privately? Isn’t God omnipresent?
The mass is both the Divine Liturgy and it is the sacrifice of Christ. Your participation in the mass is your participation in the sacrifice of Christ. It is also your participation in the heavenly liturgy. You can figure out the consequences of refusing to attend the heavenly liturgy and the lack of participation in the sacrifice of Christ.
 
Just to answer the first objection, Priests if I’m not mistaken make less than $20,000 a year. For a man with as much education as a lawyer or doctor, it’s tough to claim that is too much. Plus I knew Lutheran ministers who made in excess of 100K a year.

As far as the rest, I’m not certain how much money the Church has. A lot of it is int antiquities, that don’t mean much in hard currency terms They are constantly closing Churches and Schools throughout NY, a strongbed of Catholicism. Until someone can do the books on the Vatican, they really shoudln’t talk to it.

Plus running a wolrdwide Church of 1.2 billion doesn’t pay for itself.
 
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Polska:
  1. Why do you need to go to church if you can pray privately? Isn’t God omnipresent?
Please let me know how I can respond to these questions.
Sure you can pray anywhere. You can pray in a strip bar as well as a church. But one of those places has an atmosphere much more conducive to prayer than the other.
 
The “money” and all the “wealth” of the Catholic Church is not hidden or hoarded somewhere in the Vatican.

If you go underground of St. Peter’s Basilica (and of the other basilicas in Rome), you would see only the catacombs and the relics of many saints, including St. Peter’s! Yes, these are worth “millions” of graces!

The Catholic Church is composed of particular Churches and therein lies her “money” and “wealth!” These particular Churches are the dioceses and eparchies spread over worldwide, under whose name the “properties” of the Church are entitled.

The next time you go to your parish Church, which is normally “owned” by the diocese, take a long and hard look at its condition and inquire how your weekly (or daily) contribution is expended.

Your parish Church and your diocese are ONLY as wealthy as how much you care for their well-being!
 
Just a couple more things -

If it weren’t for the Catholic Church, throughout history, we would not have universities. The first universities were Catholic teaching schools. We would not have hospitals. The Catholic Church developed hospitals to take care of the infirmed.

Yes, the Catholic Church owns lots of real estate but they use that real estate for charitable works. The “things” that the Vatican has is for use by all people. The money that she collects go for upkeep as well, just like any other church as well as caritable agencies. The Catholic Church has more charitable agencies than anyy other agency in the world!. Go to www.catholiccharities.com for an example of this. The money collected at the parish level is for the upkeep of the chruch, grounds, school, parish life center, St. Vincent dePaul Society and anyother charitable agencies the parish wishes to support as well as pay salaries of those working at the parish level. We don’t do anything any differently than our protestant brothers and sisters.

One of the main reasons we worship on Sundays is because it’s a command of God - not a suggestion - a command. The 3rd Commandment.

And, besides, if God saw fit to give Himself up to death for the life of the world, so we could be with Him always and He left me a way that I can experience the heavenly banquet here on earth until I can be with Him in heaven - I think it would be sort of a slap in the face to say, “No, thanks, I don’t need your Body and Blood That you gave for me in the New Covenant. I’ll just say prayers to you from my house.” Especially after he told me that if I didn’t eat His flesh and drink His blood, then I would have no life within me. It’s not worth taking the chance to say my way is better than His way - Nope - not for me. He has said these things for a reason.
 
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Why did Christ call the Temple “My Father’s House” both when he was found there instructing the elders, and when He cleared out the money changers.

If God is present in the exact same way everywhere, why did Christ have such an affinity for the Temple. In fact, why did God even command that it be built in the first place?
 
First universities were in India. You guys cannot claim credit for that one.
 
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First universities were in India. You guys cannot claim credit for that one.
Citations of proof please?

BTW…the guy is nuts… all ya have to do is go look at the Vatican’s financial statement at Vatican.va and you’ll see that most years the church is in a deficit. Morover, I don’t see the vast majority of n-C preachers turning to celibate lifestyles and living on under 20K a year for the sake of the kingdom of God, or avoiding building bigger churches with gymnasiums and rec centers and such. Tell them , “Physician heal thyself.”
 
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