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Chris Christie discusses birth control, Catholic faith in New Hampshire
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stinkcat_14
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It sounds like he is trying to get a little attention, which he probably desperately needs because his chances now are slim to none and slim is getting ready to leave town.
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SuperLuigi
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No. Mr. Christie, contraception is NOT okay. Please don’t spin it. We need to confess our sins and preach the Truth.
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Dwyer
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Governor Christie also nominated an openly homosexual man to the New Jersey Supreme Court in 2012.
The nomination was rejected by New Jersey Senate Judiciary Committee.
With the New Jersey Bridge Gate scandal and this nomination under his belt, I think Christie would be a poor choice for POTUS.
The nomination was rejected by New Jersey Senate Judiciary Committee.
With the New Jersey Bridge Gate scandal and this nomination under his belt, I think Christie would be a poor choice for POTUS.
nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/01/gov_christie_nominates_two_for.html
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Cider
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So he basically admitted he unrepentant, at least that what he seems to be saying.
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Memaw
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Maybe he’s after the liberal Catholic vote. God Bless, Memaw
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stinkcat_14
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It could be, New Hampshire in particular has been getting much more liberal over the past 20 years.
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Path_Finder
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He’s derfunded Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood hate him.
He’s prosecuted and convicted Terrorists, that was his job under Bush.
So, all in all, if he were elected, I’d vote for him.
He’s prosecuted and convicted Terrorists, that was his job under Bush.
So, all in all, if he were elected, I’d vote for him.
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gnjsdad
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He’s not alone if you believe all the polling data on Catholics and contraception.
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saintjohnxxiii
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He’s the only one who’s got the moxie to take on Trump. No other candidate could take on The Trump!
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Tim_D
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Did he say that? Is it necessary for him to say if he confessed it or is it none of our business?
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Tim_D
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Did he say that? Did he try to spin anything? Some of you guys here are worse than the media that you endlessly criticize for inaccurate reporting.
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Tim_D
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Yes, because everything is liberal vs. conservative, isn’t it?
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Path_Finder
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You could spin it to he is being honest.
I’ve heard that if he was ever elected President, long shot, I know, his wife would be the first truly pro-life first lady.
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I’ve heard that if he was ever elected President, long shot, I know, his wife would be the first truly pro-life first lady.
I think he gets a bad rap.
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Compare this to, those Christian or Catholic Politicians who are pro-choice. We’d never hear this kind of defense from them.
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Cider
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If he actually thought it was none of our business why did he make the statement? It’s not like he hasn’t told reporters “it’s none of your business” before.
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Dwyer
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idk if he confessed it, but Christie immediately then asked the audience “So does that make me a bad Catholic?”, implying to the audience that it does not.
He clearly violated God’s law.
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Sy_Noe
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idk either but if he had confessed, I was thinking he wouldn’t have had to ask if he was bad.
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abucs
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I disagree with him on some social issues but I have respect for his integrity in clearly stating what his views are and why.
I suspect that the religious freedom that I care very much about would be quite safe under a Christie Presidency.
I even suspect that he would be quite strong in checking the Progressive take over of law, education, medicine, culture and everything else that they can grab and dictate.
I suspect that the religious freedom that I care very much about would be quite safe under a Christie Presidency.
I even suspect that he would be quite strong in checking the Progressive take over of law, education, medicine, culture and everything else that they can grab and dictate.
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Murmurs
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Have to say it’s hardly a great surprise, given that about 95+% of Catholics in the US do exactly the same thing! But it still requires a good deal of brave honesty given all the sex-posturing that takes place.
What I object to much more is that Christie is happy to effectively say that he feels able to defy is own religious authorities on the matter, and shape his sex life how he sees fit (that’s his problem if he does that IMO) - but his record is that he’s not willing to extend that right to others. Regardless of the rightness or wrongness, it is the hypocrisy that stinks.
The Church, Christie is basically saying, shouldn’t have a vote in his sex life (fair enough, he’s most definitely not alone even among Catholics), but is does that one’s boss should have a say in someone else’s (eg he’s loudly affirmed the Hobby Lobby decision, where the Supreme Court found that an employer should be able to deny contraception coverage based on their religious beliefs).
As the anti-choice movement swings towards opposition to contraception altogether, how is it that suddenly it’s a “moderate” position for someone like Christie to effectively say that safe sex is a luxury and that it should only be available to those who can afford it out of pocket rather than as part of normal health care?
This ridiculous (frankly disgusting) attitude conveniently ignores the problem that everyone suffers when individual women (regardless of their own income level) don’t have the ability to make their own reproductive health care decisions. Unintended pregnancy costs the US public over $12Bn a year (considering publicly-funded births and associated care - ironically, mostly in Republican-leaning states). There’s one contribution to the overall budget deficit that could vanish overnight if contraception was treated as a right rather than a luxury.
I’m not saying by the way that it’s ok for Christie to present himself as a good and faithful Catholic and then say “well actually I am except for the contraception thing…”. But this is where political and religious beliefs should be kept well apart. Sex shoudln’t be a have vs have-not issue, which is what people like Christie wants to make it. In reality, it’s a normal part of almost everyone’s life. Being judgemental about it isn’t going to change a thing…
What I object to much more is that Christie is happy to effectively say that he feels able to defy is own religious authorities on the matter, and shape his sex life how he sees fit (that’s his problem if he does that IMO) - but his record is that he’s not willing to extend that right to others. Regardless of the rightness or wrongness, it is the hypocrisy that stinks.
The Church, Christie is basically saying, shouldn’t have a vote in his sex life (fair enough, he’s most definitely not alone even among Catholics), but is does that one’s boss should have a say in someone else’s (eg he’s loudly affirmed the Hobby Lobby decision, where the Supreme Court found that an employer should be able to deny contraception coverage based on their religious beliefs).
As the anti-choice movement swings towards opposition to contraception altogether, how is it that suddenly it’s a “moderate” position for someone like Christie to effectively say that safe sex is a luxury and that it should only be available to those who can afford it out of pocket rather than as part of normal health care?
This ridiculous (frankly disgusting) attitude conveniently ignores the problem that everyone suffers when individual women (regardless of their own income level) don’t have the ability to make their own reproductive health care decisions. Unintended pregnancy costs the US public over $12Bn a year (considering publicly-funded births and associated care - ironically, mostly in Republican-leaning states). There’s one contribution to the overall budget deficit that could vanish overnight if contraception was treated as a right rather than a luxury.
I’m not saying by the way that it’s ok for Christie to present himself as a good and faithful Catholic and then say “well actually I am except for the contraception thing…”. But this is where political and religious beliefs should be kept well apart. Sex shoudln’t be a have vs have-not issue, which is what people like Christie wants to make it. In reality, it’s a normal part of almost everyone’s life. Being judgemental about it isn’t going to change a thing…
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Memaw
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That doesn’t make it right!!! God Bless, Memaw
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