Did Adam and Eve go to hell?

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My sister and I had a very interesting discussion about Adam and Eve yesterday. She told me she never thought Adam and Eve went
to hell. I told her I thought they did. Why? Because Adam disobeyed
God, and betrayed Him. Adam blamed God, and he knew better.
Eve was thoroughly deceived by Satan, but she took the apple.
I thought that since they disobeyed God, that they did indeed burn in hell for their actions. Am I wrong? Iam definitely not the judge as to whether Adam or Eve went to hell, but I think they did go to hell.
What they did was a serious violation, and did that action that they
took warrant them going to hell?
 
I’ll let you know when I get there. Seriously, we don’t know (other than Judas) who is in hell.
 
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Tom:
I’ll let you know when I get there. Seriously, we don’t know (other than Judas) who is in hell.
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We don’t know Judas is in hell. There’s plenty of good discussion that goes on about this, and neither side seems to come out on top. In any case, judging him to be in hell is just as sinful as judging anyone else to be there.
 
If we knew for sure if Adam and Eve were in hell, then the suspense would be gone, wouldn’t it?

The skeptics would answer here, that there is no Adam, there is no Eve, and there is no hell.
 
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Marilena:
My sister and I had a very interesting discussion about Adam and Eve yesterday. She told me she never thought Adam and Eve went
to hell. I told her I thought they did. Why? Because Adam disobeyed
God, and betrayed Him. Adam blamed God, and he knew better.
Eve was thoroughly deceived by Satan, but she took the apple.
I thought that since they disobeyed God, that they did indeed burn in hell for their actions. Am I wrong? Iam definitely not the judge as to whether Adam or Eve went to hell, but I think they did go to hell.
What they did was a serious violation, and did that action that they
took warrant them going to hell?
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Not if they repented. No matter what someone does, they can repent. When God clothed them with animal skins, the blood that was shed was a type and precursor to the blood Christ would shed. We also know Abel and other descendents to be God-fearing people, so it appears that the first parents conveyed knowledge about God through oral tradition.

Of course, we are not free to speculate with certainty about someone’s destiny. But I would lean in favor of them being in heaven.
 
why would they be sent to Hell? They were punished for their sins and forced to sufer and then their offspring would suffer all the way down to us. Were they not given a second chance for redemption by living that life of suffering and hardships by still regaining the favor of God one day. They had the longest wait of anyone since they were the first humans but would Jesus not dieing for our sins also inlcude Adam and Eve as well? Also, I am not sure if many of us would have not committed the same sin. I think it is human nature to just have curiousity and even if you can go thousands of years, eventually, most would probably fall to the same temtation and eat the apple.
 
Before Christ came and died on the cross for us, everyone went to Hell. Hell had two compartments - the suffering side and the “paradise” side. So, everyone went to the same place, just to different sides (rich man and begger parable…they could see each other just divided). It was after Jesus “gave up the ghost” when he went to preach in Hell and take the saved (ones in Paradise’s side) to Heaven.

If people went to Heaven before Christ took our punishment on the cross in our stead, then there was no need for him to come.
 
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Lazerlike42:
We don’t know Judas is in hell. There’s plenty of good discussion that goes on about this, and neither side seems to come out on top. In any case, judging him to be in hell is just as sinful as judging anyone else to be there.
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Lazerlike,

Jesus’ words at the Last Supper that “it would be better for that man if he had never been born” are usually interpreted to mean that Judas wound up in Hell. After all, if Judas went to Heaven that would be better for him than never having been born.
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wjp984:
I think it is human nature to just have curiousity and even if you can go thousands of years, eventually, most would probably fall to the same temtation and eat the apple.
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You are right, it is human nature. We are all born with a sinful nature, one that want’s to steal, lie, cheat, fornicate, etc…

That is why we need Jesus Christ - to put a new heart in us, to make a new creature out of us.
 
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Lazerlike42:
We don’t know Judas is in hell. In any case, judging him to be in hell is just as sinful as judging anyone else to be there.
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One common mistake regarding Judas damnation is to consider only his last moments, mainly after the Last Supper. But Judas damnation started earlier. He was a thief from the beginning, he envied Jesus from the beginning, he didn’t love Jesus from the beginning. When Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus that night, he performed only his last betrayal. But how many others did before! Finally, he died how he lived, in hatred, in the hands of Satan, “after he took the morsel, Satan entered him” (John 13, 27).
 
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doomhammer:
One common mistake regarding Judas damnation is to consider only his last moments, mainly after the Last Supper. But Judas damnation started earlier. He was a thief from the beginning, he envied Jesus from the beginning, he didn’t love Jesus from the beginning. When Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus that night, he performed only his last betrayal. But how many others did before! Finally, he died how he lived, in hatred, in the hands of Satan, “after he took the morsel, Satan entered him” (John 13, 27).
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Judas abandoned Jesus because of His teaching on the Real Presence in John 6. Where does that put the Protestants? :hmmm:
 
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JSmitty2005:
Judas abandoned Jesus because of His teaching on the Real Presence in John 6. Where does that put the Protestants? :hmmm:
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Smitty,

You may be overstating the case. When Judas took the piece of bread, Satan entered him; this does not mean by itself that he left over Jesus’ teaching in John 6.

I would also not be too hard on Protestants. Many of them love God and their zeal is commendable. Naturally they are mistaken in some things, but that goes with not being Catholic.
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Lazerlike42:
In any case, judging him to be in hell is just as sinful as judging anyone else to be there.
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I’m having a little bit of trouble seeing how this would be a sin. :confused:
But of course we don’t know for certain whether or not Judas is in Hell…but, by all indications, it would seem very very likely that that is the case. The same goes for Hitler, Stalin, and Rasputin. We can argue back and forth all day, but there’s (fortunately or unfortunately) no infallible statement currently available for us to settle the question for certain.
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malachi_a_serva:
Before Christ came and died on the cross for us, everyone went to Hell. Hell had two compartments - the suffering side and the “paradise” side.
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:rotfl: I’m sorry…it’s just the whole “two compartments” explanation. It’s new to me.
But yes…and no. Hell is the state of being eternally cut off from God…once you go to Hell, you can’t leave. Before Christ came and died on the cross, people went to either Hell (if they really deserved it) or Purgatory/Limbo (if they didn’t deserve Hell, but couldn’t enter Heaven).
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malachi_a_serva:
So, everyone went to the same place, just to different sides (rich man and begger parable…they could see each other just divided).
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The rich man and the beggar parable is actually a reference to Purgatory, if I’m not mistaken. At least that’s what I remember learning. But I don’t have the documentation right now… 🤓
 
Well, if Adam and Eve ARE in Heaven, their purgatory was probably the BIGGEST cosmic glare from Jesus. 🙂 jk
I think they repented and are in Heaven.
 
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Liberian:
You may be overstating the case. When Judas took the piece of bread, Satan entered him; this does not mean by itself that he left over Jesus’ teaching in John 6.
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Reread John 6. Many Catholic scholars believe that that was when Judas originally lost his faith in Christ. I’m sorry, but I had a link for it and now I don’t remember where I put it.
 
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Mordocai:
Well, if Adam and Eve ARE in Heaven, their purgatory was probably the BIGGEST cosmic glare from Jesus. 🙂 jk
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ROTFL!!! 😃 Can you imagine? “All you had to do was leave the tree alone…”
But I agree, the common traditional Christian beliefs are that Adam and Eve did go to Heaven, while Judas probably went to Hell. But again, neither had been infallibly proclaimed as such.
 
Not infallibly defined, but I have a feeling they’re okay. For one, Adam lived a really long time, plenty of time to repent.

Second, they called upon the name of the Lord when their children were born. A good sign (not definite though) that they were forgiven.
 
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JSmitty2005:
Judas abandoned Jesus because of His teaching on the Real Presence in John 6. Where does that put the Protestants? :hmmm:
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“The Protestants” - are they that group of deluded sinners, lost in heresy, towards whom our appropriate response is one of arrogant condescension and constant smirks; that group of, to use your and Corapi’s words, dissidents on their merry way to hell?

where does that put the protestants? I constantly come across “Protestants” who put me and the majority of Catholics to shame with the way they follow Christ and his commands so closely. I gues that’d put them in the arms of God, in his grace daily, and I guess that’d put them in heaven - quite likely after suffering less painful purification in Purgatory than the average selfsatisfied lazy Catholic who believes they have access to “the fullness of the truth” (by virtue of being a member of the Catholic Church) but does little or nothing with it.

Nothing personal here - or nothing directed at one person in particular - and I’m speaking as much to myself, as a lazy Catholic, as I am to any of my brothers and sisters.
 
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