Did Mary gain knowledge when assumed into heaven?

[laocmo]

A serious study of God’s Church accepted attributes reveals that one of them says God cannot be affected by anything or anybody This means he is not offended, and cannot be offended by all those things mentioned by Mary in the message supposedly given to Lucy at Fatima. Things like women dressing immodestly, if you believe the appropriate attribute, can not possibly offend God. Mary doesn’t seem to know of this attribute that makes him immune to the offenses of others. Did Mary gain all the knowledge that she should have after she was assumed into heaven? Doesn’t seem like that happened. At least she doesn’t know about this particular attribute.

 

[Tomdstone]

I thought that sin was an offense against God?

 

[ffg]

A couple thoughts.

Affected does not equal offended.

Sin is offending God.

Does it affect Him, as in change Him in some way? No

The target which is affected by sin, would be the object that has the effects of sin, that would be the sinner.

Another angle is that offense does not equal ‘sad for’.

As in, because God loves, His creation has a freedom. Fathers see their kids do foolish things all the time which don’t affect the father.

In a similar way, since God sees all, certainly there are things that he sees which don’t offend Him, but do sadden Him.

Perhaps also, we want to consider that God and Mary (assumingly) being outside of time would see the future and the fruit born from certain acts.

Thus the modesty message (if true) would be fairly important to get to the world, so when people are in sin, they have a foundation for which to reach and hold.

People can teach something like - you are doing x and it has this bad effect, but look, you can do Y and it doesn’t have that bad effect.

Then through conversation they work their way to a modesty message and foundational event in time which showed it matters to God.

Take care,

Mike

 

[Hawkmaid]

A serious study of God’s Church accepted attributes reveals that one of them says God cannot be affected by anything or anybody This means he is not offended, and cannot be offended by all those things mentioned by Mary in the message supposedly given to Lucy at Fatima. Things like women dressing immodestly, if you believe the appropriate attribute, can not possibly offend God. Mary doesn’t seem to know of this attribute that makes him immune to the offenses of others. Did Mary gain all the knowledge that she should have after she was assumed into heaven? Doesn’t seem like that happened. At least she doesn’t know about this particular attribute.

1: What study is this?
2: You are correct, God cannot by affected by anything or anybody. BUT, that does not mean He can’t CHOOSE to be. He wept when Lazarus died (Even though He knew He would raise him from the dead!) and He was pretty freaked out in the Garden of Olives. He was “affected” by many things on earth, so it is logical to believe He was affected and will always be affected by us - because He WANTS to be. Now, to Fatima:

3: Women dressing immodestly offends God because it can cause men (and therefore the women too) to sin. Sin offends God, because it is the action of turning away from Him. He loves us so much, He’s sad to see us turn away. Of course, His wrath is there too, but that’s going to make me talk longer, so moving on!

In summary, sin of any kind offends God because He *chooses *to love us and be affected by us, and when we choose sin, we are choosing NOT to love Him. If He didn’t want to be affected by us, He wouldn’t be, but as I said above, He does, so He is. Therefore, Mary had all the knowledge she needed. Does that help? I hope I made sense.

 

[anon98328916]

Sin is offensive to God…it is like a disease to Him.

 

[Petaro]

A serious study of God’s Church accepted attributes reveals that one of them says God cannot be affected by anything or anybody This means he is not offended, and cannot be offended by all those things mentioned by Mary in the message supposedly given to Lucy at Fatima. Things like women dressing immodestly, if you believe the appropriate attribute, can not possibly offend God. Mary doesn’t seem to know of this attribute that makes him immune to the offenses of others. Did Mary gain all the knowledge that she should have after she was assumed into heaven? Doesn’t seem like that happened. At least she doesn’t know about this particular attribute.

I believe you presume too much in stating what Our Lady does or does not know about God. Might I suggest a different less demeaning tone in speaking of the Mother of Jesus, the Second Person of the Triune God. I believe we are best to maintain the greatest humility in dealing with matters of which we will never know. Your serious study of God’s attributes needs further linguistic analysis before we can equate affect with offend. Please don’t limit Mary’s knowledge to your own.