Do evangelicals really believe that humans are only 6000 years old?

[dronald]

Is there a Magisterial document instructing an evil act such as a doctrine or dogma?

So a Pope can call for the killing of others and that makes it not the Church, but if a Pope says “kill others, also this is doctrine.” then it’s the Church?

 

[PaulDupre1]

I’m not entirely sure how I would answer this as a Catholic either. Can anyone chime in?

Don’t get infallibility confused with impeccability.

Infallibility means that the pope and the magisterium in communion with the pope is prevented from teaching false doctrine. That’s it.

Think of the charism of infallibility as a guard rail on a winding mountain road. All the guard rail does is make sure that the driver does not drive over the cliff. It does not make the driver a good driver, and does not keep the driver from colliding with other drivers. And it certainly doesn’t guarantee that the driver will be a nice guy, or even a good guy.

To teach false doctrine would be to drive off the cliff. All else is human sin and error, from which infallibilty does not protect.

Impeccability means unable to sin. Everyone sins, so no one is impeccable, including a pope. Remember that God uses whom He will to accomplish His righteous purposes.

I believe that each pope is called at the time he is called for a specific reason, and has a specific work to accomplish.

Paul

 

[buffalo]

So a Pope can call for the killing of others and that makes it not the Church, but if a Pope says “kill others, also this is doctrine.” then it’s the Church?

The Church proposition is not one of evil. However, there can be evil men who exploit the goodness of the church to further evil.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Thread pruned.
Remain on topic.

 

[dronald]

Probably not. A lot of science, particularly in academia, is unfortunately tainted by corruption and raw emotion of liberalism.

I honestly think they’re very smart men coming to conclusions. Some being blatant obvious such as non-existent stars light just reaching Earth now. It shows a process in time ie: [X] number of years ago the starlight would be in such a place; now it is at Earth.

In summary, here’s evidence of an Evangelical believing the universe is billions of years old contrary to the opinions of some Catholics. Hope that helps.

 

[campeador]

As a Catholic I find this statement by Pope Benedict XVI compelling:

Currently, I see in Germany, but also in the United States, a somewhat fierce debate raging between so-called “creationism” and evolutionism, presented as though they were mutually exclusive alternatives: those who believe in the Creator would not be able to conceive of evolution, and those who instead support evolution would have to exclude God. This antithesis is absurd because, on the one hand, there are so many scientific proofs in favour of evolution which appears to be a reality we can see and which enriches our knowledge of life and being as such. But on the other, the doctrine of evolution does not answer every query, especially the great philosophical question: where does everything come from? And how did everything start which ultimately led to man? I believe this is of the utmost importance.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2007/july/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20070724_clero-cadore_en.html

 

[Newsy]

I have heard this claim before. What would be the difference between a particular pope ordering something horrific, and the church itself engaging in something horrific?

In order for your quote to make sense to me, I would need to understand what would be required in order for the Church to be responsible for something. What are the criteria for determining this?

I don’t see a response to your question. I thought someone answered it, but just in case.

All that would be needed to show the Catholic Church endorsing something evil is a Church wide document that explains its position. A papal letter would be a wonderful piece of evidence. Anything showing Church support on a large scale, including the Pope and Bishops. A letter from one person to another would not show Church responsibility, even if one of those people was a Pope. Does that make sense?

There are probably threads on this topic already.