Festa di San Giuseppe March 19

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S. Ioseph, ora pro nobis.

However this year, due to 19 March falling on the 3rd Sunday of Lent, the Solemnity of Saint Joseph is translated to Monday, 20-March.

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tee_eff_em said:
S. Ioseph, ora pro nobis.

However this year, due to 19 March falling on the 3rd Sunday of Lent, the Solemnity of Saint Joseph is translated to Monday, 20-March.

tee

Are there any special traditions associated with St. Joseph’s feast?

Gearoidin
 
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tee_eff_em:
However this year, due to 19 March falling on the 3rd Sunday of Lent, the Solemnity of Saint Joseph is translated to Monday, 20-March.
Thank you, you saved me some typing. I had to explain it to the Italians at work on Friday when I said Monday is St. Joseph’s Day (observed). It will be interesting to see how St. Joseph’s Day and the Annunciation of the Lord will be observed in 2008; one falls during Holy Week, the other during Easter Week. I’m assuming they’ll be observed on the Monday and Tuesday after Easter Week.
 
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Gearoidin:
Are there any special traditions associated with St. Joseph’s feast?

Gearoidin
Among the Italians, there is the traditional St. Joseph’s Table. These days Italian organizations or parishes hold a buffet dinner of all meatless dishes (because it’s Lent) for all comers. Participants make donation for the poor or some charitable cause . There are several stories concerning this custom’s origin, but they usually involve someone showing gratitude for a favor by providing a feast for the poor. Oblong buns, called St. Joseph’s bread, are blessed and handed out. You can either eat them or, as some people do, keep them in the house the same way blessed palms are kept. We’re going to a St. Joseph Table today after Mass.
 
Psalm45:9:
Thank you, you saved me some typing. I had to explain it to the Italians at work on Friday when I said Monday is St. Joseph’s Day (observed). It will be interesting to see how St. Joseph’s Day and the Annunciation of the Lord will be observed in 2008; one falls during Holy Week, the other during Easter Week. I’m assuming they’ll be observed on the Monday and Tuesday after Easter Week.
I believe that is correct. I anticipate that the Annunciation will be transferred to Mon 31-Mar-2008, and St Joseph to Tue 1-Apr-2008. (While I’m not sure, I belive this is because the Table of Liturgical Days #3 imposes a partial order even on solemnities, *viz *those “…of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and saints listed in the General Calendar”)

An even more specialized case occurs when Sun 19-Mar is Passion (Palm) Sunday (and ergo Fri 24-Mar is Good Friday), as happened in 1989 and will happen again in 2062: In this circumstance St Joseph is anticipated on Sat 18-Mar, and Annunciation is translated to Mon 3-Apr.

tee
Armchair Liturgical Calendar Nerd 🤓
 
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Gearoidin:
Are there any special traditions associated with St. Joseph’s feast?

Gearoidin
Yes indeed. Down here in south Louisiana (very big in New Orleans) the Italians make altars to St. Joseph. These can be very elaborate and huge. They bake cookies (yum), bread in various religious shapes (cross). They stuff artichokes. The cook pasta and sauce with boiled eggs instead of meatballs - just all sorts of delicious food. The altar can be in a home, in church, or in front of the church. The food is placed on the altar.

Three children portray the Holy Family. At my church, they go to the first of the three doors out front and knock. They ask for shelter and are turned away. They go to the other side door and repeat the request and are turned away. Then they go to the main door and are given shelter. After the “Holy Family” eats, everyone is invited to eat and everyone is sent home with a bag full of Italian cookies.

The Sicilians here survived famines by eating fava beans. So, the priest blesses the fava beans and everyone is invited to take one home for good luck. We Irish Americans, however, will not take a bean since it is said that the Italians are passing their bad luck on to you.😃 No joke, my mother was a firm believer in this.

I’ll see if I can’t find a photo of an altar and post it. Karen, you may have seen the big one at St. Josph’s on Tulane Ave. in NO.
 
These are a few pictures taken in 2001 at Immaculate Conception, Denham Springs, LA.

These are sort of side tables, preceding the main altar.
photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_rosary.jpghttp://photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_Tabernacle.jpg
Left: This is a rosary. Each bead is made of a little cake.
Right: This shows some of the delicious cookies served. In the middle is an old tabernacle from the original church building of my parish. The Eucharist is not in it, we have a “new” one now in the “new” church building, but this one is so much more beautiful and elaborate

photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_st.jpg
This is the main altar. Though it’s hard to see, St. Joseph is in the picture in the center, of the Holy Family. However, it’s so like Joseph, he’s in the background and quietly looking on, and the colors the artist used to paint him aren’t as vibrant as those used to paint Mary, and even lesser so than those used for the Christ child.

Here is a Christmas card using the same picture:

photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_HolyFamily.jpg
The Holy Family
18th Century Painting, Restored 1991
Artist Unknown
St. Francis Chapel of Pointe Coupee
near Morganza, LA
 
I find it interesting how the traditions of the Italians and the Irish contrast on these two great feast days in such close proximity.
 
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Karen1996:
These are a few pictures taken in 2001 at Immaculate Conception, Denham Springs, LA.

These are sort of side tables, preceding the main altar.
photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_rosary.jpghttp://photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_Tabernacle.jpg
Left: This is a rosary. Each bead is made of a little cake.
Right: This shows some of the delicious cookies served. In the middle is an old tabernacle from the original church building of my parish. The Eucharist is not in it, we have a “new” one now in the “new” church building, but this one is so much more beautiful and elaborate

photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_st.jpg
This is the main altar. Though it’s hard to see, St. Joseph is in the picture in the center, of the Holy Family. However, it’s so like Joseph, he’s in the background and quietly looking on, and the colors the artist used to paint him aren’t as vibrant as those used to paint Mary, and even lesser so than those used for the Christ child.

Here is a Christmas card using the same picture:

photobucket.com/albums/g29/KMP1996/th_HolyFamily.jpg
The Holy Family
18th Century Painting, Restored 1991
Artist Unknown
St. Francis Chapel of Pointe Coupee
near Morganza, LA
They are very beautiful. Thanks for sharing!

Gearoidin
 
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tee_eff_em:
I believe that is correct. I anticipate that the Annunciation will be transferred to Mon 31-Mar-2008, and St Joseph to Tue 1-Apr-2008. (While I’m not sure, I belive this is because the Table of Liturgical Days #3 imposes a partial order even on solemnities, *viz *those “…of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and saints listed in the General Calendar”)

An even more specialized case occurs when Sun 19-Mar is Passion (Palm) Sunday (and ergo Fri 24-Mar is Good Friday), as happened in 1989 and will happen again in 2062: In this circumstance St Joseph is anticipated on Sat 18-Mar, and Annunciation is translated to Mon 3-Apr.

tee
Armchair Liturgical Calendar Nerd 🤓
LOL, I also know in Europe if a Solemnity during Advent or Lent falls on Sunday it will be observed on the preceeding Saturday. So in Italy St. Joseph’s Day was observed on Saturday the 18th. Also I know you’re right about St. Joseph’s Day being observed after the Easter Octave, because in my breviary they have optional Easter responses using “Alleluia”. So in the cases you and I mentioned, St. Joseph’s Day must be observed after the Easter Octave.
 
Psalm45:9:
I also know in Europe if a Solemnity during Advent or Lent falls on Sunday it will be observed on the preceeding Saturday. So in Italy St. Joseph’s Day was observed on Saturday the 18th.
You would think they would do that, according to the General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar #5, but here in the US at any rate, they seem found of #60, in spite of #R14. It is puzzling.

BTW: Not all of Europe anticipates the day, at least if you include England and Wales as part of Europe.

🤓 tee
 
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tee_eff_em:
You would think they would do that, according to the General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar #5, but here in the US at any rate, they seem found of #60, in spite of #R14. It is puzzling.

BTW: Not all of Europe anticipates the day, at least if you include England and Wales as part of Europe.

🤓 tee
Tee, I noticed that in that English site you provided they said that they are omitting the Gloria on this Solemnity and The Annunciation because it’s Lent??? I thought that a Solemnity is a Solemnity despite the Season.

Anyways when I went to Mass this morning, we did say the Gloria, but not the Credo! I HATE IT WHEN THEY DO THAT, IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE SAID!!! I will be ticked if they don’t do it on Saturday, for it’s one of the two days of the year where you’re supposed to genuflect. I did bring that up in RCIA last week for when they say it for the “first” time this coming Sunday. I told them you’re supposed to bow where it mentions the incarnation and on Christmas and the Annunciation you’re supposed to genuflect, becuase those two Solemnities honor the incarnation.
 
Psalm45:9:
Tee, I noticed that in that English site you provided they said that they are omitting the Gloria on this Solemnity and The Annunciation because it’s Lent??? I thought that a Solemnity is a Solemnity despite the Season.
The Sundays of Lent rank higher than those Solemnities, and we don’t sing the *Gloria *then?

tee
 
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tee_eff_em:
The Sundays of Lent rank higher than those Solemnities, and we don’t sing the *Gloria *then?

tee
I see your point, but on these two Solemnities I thought the Gloria and Credo were to be said, they are the only two times durring Lent that you will hear the Gloria; I’m just wondering if in England it is the choice of their Bishop or that of the priest of that parish.
 
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