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ladybri77
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Which sex did you feel most like growing up?
I guess the only solution to these tough questions would be to ask the Lord, He just may give you the answers you’re looking for. God Bless.
Gay marriage OK because homosexuals born that way and deserve to have romantic relationships too?
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I guess the only solution to these tough questions would be to ask the Lord, He just may give you the answers you’re looking for. God Bless.
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pathia
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I have always identified as female. However, at a very young age I was thrown into therapy to ‘make me masculine’ under the practices and beliefs of an organization called NARTH.
That is why I am a wreck, or at least one of the major reasons. I identified as female and I didn’t really understand my medical problems ‘down there’ as being intersex. It just wasn’t in my head, I just understood to have had an ‘accident’ when I was an infant and that’s why I looked different and had scars.
At the time I was growing up, it was assumed that gendered behavior was conditioned. That is, if they made me act male as a young child, I would BE male. It didn’t work too well.
So, I have a laundry list of things that ‘describe’ me. I’m intersexed, because I was born odd. I am transsexual because I rejected that initial assignment and live as the ‘opposite’ sex. I am also a ‘SSA sufferer’ because I am bisexual. Regardless of my ‘true sex’ I still have SSA, because I am attracted to both.
When I was in college, the organization was a GLBTI (Gay lesbian bisexual transsexual intersex) and we joked that I’m the entire ‘alphabet’ at once!
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Numinous
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Why is “hermaphrodite” insulting?
It’s just Hermes & Aphrodite.
It’s just Hermes & Aphrodite.
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garycasella
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I have to say that I agree with the statement above for as many of you state that people who might be pro gay marriage, pro equal rights and then go on to say that we who do sound like ‘any old gay rights page on any gay website’ as that diminishes us just as much as some here say that gay people have sex for one reason only, to orgasm.
I am sure you are not going to be able to even comprehend what I am going to say here, but by your diminishing my relationship with my late lover (the one I mentioned earlier, killed, shot through the head by someone never caught who simply did not like gay people) to ‘just orgasm’ you dimish all the feelings I had, have for him. I loved him and sex was a part of that love. The physicality of love is a part of every relationship, Catholic or not. I say that if a RC couple has 2 children, then they only had sex 2 times? No, of course not. Had God not wanted sex to be a pleasant experience, why is it so? I loved the man who I spent 3 years with and wanted to spend every year with and here, that love is taken away, denied me, as if it never was. This is upseting to me, as I am sure it would be to you. Levitical Laws, most of them, are now considered obsolete, and there were more than 600 of them. Why is the gay issue, still an issue? It is for one reason only, unwillingness to understand, relate, love, accept. It is not asking for a lot, to be accepted. If you could just imagine, close your eyes and imagine, that you were made like me, and that there were people who did not want you this way. Some want you dead. Some want you to go away and some say you will end in hell, for loving someone. Imagine if heterosexuality was considered a sin. It is silly, no? Of course it is. All I ask, me alone, as that you attempt to put yourself in my shoes and think of what life would be like without the permission to love, the right to love, the right to show your love for the other. Try, please?
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pathia
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Hermaphrodite is insulting because it refers to a biological state where reproduction as both genders is possible. They were often portrayed as fertility deities or avatars in human pagan rituals.
The vast vast majority (98%+ maybe even 99%+) of intersexed individuals are irreversibly sterile. How would you like to be compared to an image of fertility and wanton lust, when you can’t even have sex like a normal human being, let along have the ability to produce children?
Inter means in between. Intersexed people are ‘in between’. Think of Gender as Male=1 Female=0.
Intersexed people are .2 to .8 on the scale. We are not ‘1 and 0 at the same time’.
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buffalo
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Human beings are not perfect. We lost a lot at the fall.
It is our jobs to recognize this and to be compassionate. Love you neighbor as yourself. You have been given a huge cross to bear and most of us cannot even come close to understanding it.
I don’t think posters are not sympathetic. Continually pointed out is to love the sinner and hate the sin. You are chaste so you are not sinning.
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Numinous
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Gotcha. I was simply interested because I did not know. Now I know. The insult lies in the mislabeling.
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Cara_Serrano
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I admire your courage in dealing so honesty with your sexual identity. I hope it comforts you to know that your true identity is in Christ, in whose Baptism we are no longer concerned about being male or female, Jew or Gentile, but simply His.I have always identified as female. However, at a very young age I was thrown into therapy to ‘make me masculine’ under the practices and beliefs of an organization called NARTH.
That is why I am a wreck, or at least one of the major reasons. I identified as female and I didn’t really understand my medical problems ‘down there’ as being intersex. It just wasn’t in my head, I just understood to have had an ‘accident’ when I was an infant and that’s why I looked different and had scars.
At the time I was growing up, it was assumed that gendered behavior was conditioned. That is, if they made me act male as a young child, I would BE male. It didn’t work too well.
So, I have a laundry list of things that ‘describe’ me. I’m intersexed, because I was born odd. I am transsexual because I rejected that initial assignment and live as the ‘opposite’ sex. I am also a ‘SSA sufferer’ because I am bisexual. Regardless of my ‘true sex’ I still have SSA, because I am attracted to both.
When I was in college, the organization was a GLBTI (Gay lesbian bisexual transsexual intersex) and we joked that I’m the entire ‘alphabet’ at once!
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alan1941
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Again, equating homosexuals with pedophiles is wrong. Studies show that by and large most pedophiles are heterosexually oriented.Ask him if this applies to pedophiles as well…
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pathia
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I’ve been poked, prodded paraded, studied, examined and dissected as a medical subject for over a decade. One eventually gets somewhat immune to what might be labeled as ‘too much information’. I think there is at least one medical study that you can find on google that is discussing my case, if one queries specifically enough.
In my world, a coworker, who I barely even know the name of and have only just met, can decide to ask the question of ‘So, have you cut your penis off yet?’ and somehow this is considered socially acceptable (Complaining about the question though is apparently a nono, I was fired for it), because of shows like Dr Phil and Jerry Springer.
People assume we’re all like those people, and it numbs you to the craziness of someone to be able to ask that of a near complete stranger. That combined with the job insecurity issues involved with complaining of it, just make me shrug and deal with it and try to not let it bother me, because if I do, I’ll get fired.
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ladybri77
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They’re both perversions - not the way nature intended.
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alan1941
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They are both perversions if you are a heterosexual. If you were homosexual you would understand that it is a normal way of thinking. Under no circumstance is pedophili, normal. Uou were born hetrosexual. It would be a perversion for a homosexual to marry heterosexually. I know from experience. It caused a lot of pain for my ex, for ,y children and fro me.
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goofyjim
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Am I a pervert just for having the homosexual orientation even though I have never acted on it? That’s a laughable and wrong conclusion.
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ladybri77
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Yes, and that’s unfortunate, your experience and the fact that this is the way they’ve always known to be normal. I understand that many homosexuals have felt that way all their lives, so they don’t know anything else, but some have come to know the Lord and have accepted Him into their hearts, and after much surrendering and healing, He allowed some of them to experience heterosexual desires for the first time.
Of course, the definition of perversion being a sex act not intended for the way nature and God initially created it to be, between one man and one women within marriage and which produces offspring.
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goofyjim
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I am a self proclaimed celibate homosexual. I accept myself as such and indeed know God as much as anyone else on these forums.
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ladybri77
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I never said you were a pervert. The acting out on it is a perversion. Congratulations that you don’t act out. That’s what the Catholic church asks us to do and the Lord.
Ask the Lord to show you His healing power in that area of your life if that’s HIs will and if you’d be open to it. Just a suggestion.
But aren’t you really a child of God made in His image who has homosexual tendencies? I am not my weakness, I am a child of God.
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court14
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American College of Pediatricians is a small orginization formed in 2002. This groups “studies” come from Paul Cameron who has the following record;
On December 2, 1983, the **American Psychological Association **sent Paul Cameron a letter informing him that he had been dropped from membership. Early in 1984, all members of the American Psychological Association received official written notice that “Paul Cameron (Nebraska) was dropped from membership for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists” by the APA Board of Directors.5 Cameron has posted an elaborate argument about his expulsion from APA on his website, claiming that he resigned from APA before he was dropped from membership. Like most organizations, however, APA does not allow a member to resign when they are being investigated. And even if Cameron’s claims were accepted as true, it would be remarkable that the largest professional organization of psychologists in the United States (and other professional associations, as noted below) went to such lengths to disassociate itself from one individual.
At its membership meeting on October 19, 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association adopted a resolution stating that it "formally disassociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality."
In 1985, the American Sociological Association (ASA) adopted a resolution which asserted that “Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism” and noted that **“Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his *distorted interpretation *of this research.”**7 The resolution formally charged an ASA committee with the task of “critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron.”
At its August, 1986 meeting, the ASA officially accepted the committee’s report and passed the following resolution:
The **American Sociological Association **officially and publicly states that **Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research. **Information on this action and a copy of the report by the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, “The Paul Cameron Case,” is to be published in Footnotes, and be sent to the officers of all regional and state sociological associations and to the Canadian Sociological Association with a request that they alert their members to Cameron’s frequent lecture and media appearances."
In August, 1996, the **Canadian Psychological Association **adopted the following policy statement:
The Canadian Psychological Association takes the position that **Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism and thus, it formally disassociates itself from the representation and interpretations of scientific literature in his writings and public statements on sexuality. **
Cameron’s credibility was also questioned outside of academia. In his written opinion in Baker v. Wade (1985), Judge Buchmeyer of the **U.S. District Court of Dallas **referred to “Cameron’s sworn statement that ‘homosexuals abuse children at a proportionately greater incident than do heterosexuals,’” and concluded that “Dr. Paul Cameron…has himself made misrepresentations to this Court” and that "There has been no fraud or misrepresentations except by Dr. Cameron"
AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS … is the American Medical Association considered the authority in the area of pediatrics. The above link states its position.
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goofyjim
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Then by that reasoning you are not a heterosexual but someone with heterosexual tendencies. Regardless there is no need for healing in this area as it is not a sickness in need of one.
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pathia
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Every person I know who tried this and never gave up, is dead. Nothing every fixed them, God never did anything, so they ended their lives. Some as young as 11 or 12. The number of people I know who committed suicide, because God wouldn’t fix them is over two dozen. I stopped counting because it was so grisly to think of the number in such a methodical manner.
THe general theme of their suicide notes, if they left them, were that, ~I obviously cannot be fixed, it’s better to die now, before I become even more of a sinner~.
I even had therapists that more or less said this. ~We have sorrow that one of us has left us, but it is better to have died now, than lived a lifetime of sin~.
I was TEN when they were discussing this kind of thing, if that isn’t child abuse, I don’ t know what is.
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