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ashok
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hi
I need some feedback about what Hinduism and Christianity have in common.
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I need some feedback about what Hinduism and Christianity have in common.
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JSmitty2005
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Not much. We believe in one God, they believe in many gods. We believe in absolute truth, and (I think) Hindus believe that truth is relative.
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Ahimsa
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Here’s a list of differences:
Hindu-Christian Point-Counterpoint
From this list of differences, you can also discover the commonalities:
Hindu-Christian Point-Counterpoint
From this list of differences, you can also discover the commonalities:
- Both believe in a Supreme Being.
- Both have holy scriptures. (The type of Christianity described in the link is actually Protestant, but most of what the link describes is true for Catholicism. One difference, though, is that Catholics hold the Bible + Church Tradition as key, and not just the Bible alone.)
- Both believe that the universe is not “evil”.
- Both believe that what you do on earth, will determine your afterlife to one degree or another.
- Both believe that there is an ultimate goal of human existence.
- Both believe that spiritual beings exist, and can be communicated with.
- Both believe that the ultimate goal of life can best (or only) be achieved by means of God manifesting (to one degree or another) in human form.
- Both believe in compassion, “turning the other cheek.”
- Both believe that the Supreme Being is the reason everything exists.
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freedomm
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Dear ashok:
If by Hinduism you meant the one that came into existence long after Indian Vedic period and by Christianity you meant religion invented by Paul, and adopted by Roman Catholic Church, then there is atleast one visible strange commonality that I do see, a far the concept of their God is concerned, and that is:
Hinduism too have a concept of Trinity consists of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva and Paul’s Christianity of RCC (which later developed a strange dogma of Trinity) consists of **the Father (God), the Begotten Son ** and the Holy Ghost.
But the elements of Hinduism’s Trinity are Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver) and Shiva (the destroyer). And this trinity is known as Trimurti.
The Trinity of Hinduism seems to have an upper hand over Paul’s Christian Trinity because the personalities of Hinduism’s Trinity are further appears to have assisted (in their duties) by** the female dieties/goddesses ** (i.e., **Saraswathi, Lakshmi ** and **Parvathi **). And the main personalities are seen by Hindus (not all) as manifestation of One Supreme God (i.e., Parameshwara).
But the elements of Hinduism’s Trinity are Brahma (the creator), Vishnu (the preserver) and Shiva (the destroyer). And this trinity is known as Trimurti.
The Trinity of Hinduism seems to have an upper hand over Paul’s Christian Trinity because the personalities of Hinduism’s Trinity are further appears to have assisted (in their duties) by** the female dieties/goddesses ** (i.e., **Saraswathi, Lakshmi ** and **Parvathi **). And the main personalities are seen by Hindus (not all) as manifestation of One Supreme God (i.e., Parameshwara).
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creativecat
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Oddly though, Hinduism and its more consistent sister Buddhism believes that God is ultimately impersonal (no personality) which means no capacity for love. In that case the human being or creature would be superior to the creator.
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JSmitty2005
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From what I understand, Hinduism/Buddhism both lead to self-deification because of their basis in relativism. Also, for this reason, the pope (when prefect of the CDF) called Buddhism the Church’s biggest enemy. (or something to that effect)
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freedomm
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But the Hindu idea of Trinity (Trimurty) is more “logical” than the Pauline Christianity’s idea of Trinity.
Because Hindus too do believe in ONE Supreme God though they see His manifestations everywhere and many ignorant Hindus literally worship many created things but the essence of early/ancient Hindus of India, too is monothiestic if Vedic knowledge is kept in mind.
Pauline Trinity is based on limited three ‘persons’ within one “Godhead” whereas Hindu Trimurty is essentially unlimited.
If someone is given choice to accept one out of these two **pagan ideas ** only, then Hindu idea would be a good choice.
Because Hindus too do believe in ONE Supreme God though they see His manifestations everywhere and many ignorant Hindus literally worship many created things but the essence of early/ancient Hindus of India, too is monothiestic if Vedic knowledge is kept in mind.
Pauline Trinity is based on limited three ‘persons’ within one “Godhead” whereas Hindu Trimurty is essentially unlimited.
If someone is given choice to accept one out of these two **pagan ideas ** only, then Hindu idea would be a good choice.
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inJESUS
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Freedom, the pauline stuff have been debunked under your own eyes and from your book as well…you are hypocrite.
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ashok
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thnx freedomm, 4 ur insight & certainly HInduism’s Trimurty is superior to “christian” trinity of boxed in only 3 forms.
i would also like to know islam’s view of God in detail, although i have some info.
Dr.zakir Naik’s videos and his books helped me alot even knowing my own religion (Hinduism) and islam’s foundation.
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inJESUS
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and Mr. Zakir was trying to prove that mohammad is fortold in your scriptures…if you believe him, you better become one
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Daniel_Marsh
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Freedom, whenever I need a good laugh I read your posts, your ignorance is extreme.
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JSmitty2005
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Daniel Marsh:
:yup:
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creativecat
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Actually it is true that 3 is a common number. The Hegelian dialectic, the Marxist dialectic, the atom (positive, negative, neutral),so on. The family: father, mother, child(ren). 3 is the building block of the world, because it is the basic unity of structure. In geometry its the Triangle. So of course everyone is aware of that. Why? Maybe God put 'clues" and ‘signs’ so that we would learn about him.
However: The biggest stumbling block in Hinduism and Buddhism is the concept of God being impersonal. Buddhism is only philosophically logical Hinduism, basically the highest philosophical understandings of Hinduism. Buddhism started in India beacause ordinary Hindus could not give up their personal illusionary gods. Hindus philosophers themselves admit that all is illusion but only Brahma anyway. But people couldn’t handle that, thats why they rejected the impersonal One of sophisticated Hinduism and Buddhism. People need to be loved by God. But: Hindu Gods are untrustworthy by their actions and deeds, just like the old pagan Gods, because they also reflect the destructive as well as creative forces of nature. That is they are amoral, (morally neutral) as opposed to moral. The Christian God is the perfect God the old sages have been looking for, and he also gives love and is also perfect. He is personal and yet transcendental, transcending creation and nature. To buy into the Hindu impersonal god is not much different than to buy into a secular idea of the universe, an impersonal structure that gives no love, and can’t be a moral example. Furthermore, to be the ALL, means it must be nothing. ALL= Nothing. No outside consciouness is possible. No borders of any kind. But Good must keep out evil to be good. Without the striving towards non-egoic state Buddhists would have nothing to offer. That sums up Buddhist practice, a soul’s death, that is: the Buddhist sees the ego and the soul as an illusion, that is: made up of past deeds, and traits, that is a cycle that must be broken. But you will say Hinduism is different. Wrong! Because Budhhism IS logical, consistent Hindu philosophy. That means ultimately the THREE persons of the Hindu Trinity are illusions anyway, for all is Brahma or Oneness. That’s what you called so-called monotheism. But Hindus want to love and be loved, so they must be inconsistent! So I guess you can bend the argument and say that Buddhism is actually true Monotheism, but that would take away a personal God. It would be a strange Monotheism because all would only mean Nothing. So I ask: how can something like creation comes from Nothing; unless you start believing creation is nothing, an illusion like the Matrix. Isn’t it just easier to believe in the Christian Trinity? You might say: oh, its too paradoxical for me! But so is EVERY other spiritual and religious point of view. But Christianity at least allows for a Morally consistent, loving god, and one that intervenes in history (Christ). If God is a loving God, wouldn’t it make sense that he would want to experience what it means to be human? In fact it would be immoral for him to ask us to suffer this earthly existence without also using himself as an example in this respect. That would be like me teaching you to drive a car without ever driving one. It would be hypocritical. So now you see why God had to come as Christ. Because his moral nature demands it. The only way out of accepting this argument is to accept a completely impersonal view of God which only Buddhism can give you, but at a high cost of elevating the human over God. Why do I say that? Because we would be become superior to God, because we would know love and he wouldn’t. As they say it is better to have loved than to never have loved. Christ’s birth was esential, can you not see that? The Trinity might seem paradoxical to you but it makes total sense in practice.
It is amazing what lengths that people would go in order to reject Christ’s love. Why don’t you ask Jesus to show you the way. Give it a try. You won’t have to spend years like I did reading new age books and occult philosophy. You’ll get quicker results by accepting Jesus into your heart. Perhaps you’re not humble enough.
However: The biggest stumbling block in Hinduism and Buddhism is the concept of God being impersonal. Buddhism is only philosophically logical Hinduism, basically the highest philosophical understandings of Hinduism. Buddhism started in India beacause ordinary Hindus could not give up their personal illusionary gods. Hindus philosophers themselves admit that all is illusion but only Brahma anyway. But people couldn’t handle that, thats why they rejected the impersonal One of sophisticated Hinduism and Buddhism. People need to be loved by God. But: Hindu Gods are untrustworthy by their actions and deeds, just like the old pagan Gods, because they also reflect the destructive as well as creative forces of nature. That is they are amoral, (morally neutral) as opposed to moral. The Christian God is the perfect God the old sages have been looking for, and he also gives love and is also perfect. He is personal and yet transcendental, transcending creation and nature. To buy into the Hindu impersonal god is not much different than to buy into a secular idea of the universe, an impersonal structure that gives no love, and can’t be a moral example. Furthermore, to be the ALL, means it must be nothing. ALL= Nothing. No outside consciouness is possible. No borders of any kind. But Good must keep out evil to be good. Without the striving towards non-egoic state Buddhists would have nothing to offer. That sums up Buddhist practice, a soul’s death, that is: the Buddhist sees the ego and the soul as an illusion, that is: made up of past deeds, and traits, that is a cycle that must be broken. But you will say Hinduism is different. Wrong! Because Budhhism IS logical, consistent Hindu philosophy. That means ultimately the THREE persons of the Hindu Trinity are illusions anyway, for all is Brahma or Oneness. That’s what you called so-called monotheism. But Hindus want to love and be loved, so they must be inconsistent! So I guess you can bend the argument and say that Buddhism is actually true Monotheism, but that would take away a personal God. It would be a strange Monotheism because all would only mean Nothing. So I ask: how can something like creation comes from Nothing; unless you start believing creation is nothing, an illusion like the Matrix. Isn’t it just easier to believe in the Christian Trinity? You might say: oh, its too paradoxical for me! But so is EVERY other spiritual and religious point of view. But Christianity at least allows for a Morally consistent, loving god, and one that intervenes in history (Christ). If God is a loving God, wouldn’t it make sense that he would want to experience what it means to be human? In fact it would be immoral for him to ask us to suffer this earthly existence without also using himself as an example in this respect. That would be like me teaching you to drive a car without ever driving one. It would be hypocritical. So now you see why God had to come as Christ. Because his moral nature demands it. The only way out of accepting this argument is to accept a completely impersonal view of God which only Buddhism can give you, but at a high cost of elevating the human over God. Why do I say that? Because we would be become superior to God, because we would know love and he wouldn’t. As they say it is better to have loved than to never have loved. Christ’s birth was esential, can you not see that? The Trinity might seem paradoxical to you but it makes total sense in practice.
It is amazing what lengths that people would go in order to reject Christ’s love. Why don’t you ask Jesus to show you the way. Give it a try. You won’t have to spend years like I did reading new age books and occult philosophy. You’ll get quicker results by accepting Jesus into your heart. Perhaps you’re not humble enough.
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Contarini
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On what basis do you make such an astounding statement? You are clearly not a Hindu. So how on earth do you have the right to tell Hindus that Buddhism is the logical version of their religion?
Your statement is incredibly arrogant and presumptuous.
That is not the sole position held by Hindu philosophers. There are different Hindu schools. You are making the common Western mistake of taking Vedanta as *the *form of Hindu philosophy. Why do we non-Hindus get to make judgments like that? There are other Hindu philosophies that do not think “all is illusion.”
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Ahimsa
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In addition, in Advaita Vedanta, “illusion” refers not to absolute non-existence, but to relative non-existence. My car is real to me. But, compared to Brahman (the ultimate, supreme Truth-Awareness-Bliss), my car is actually ‘maya’, or an ‘illusion’, because only Brahman exists.
Most Hindus are not Advaitins, however, and they criticize the Advaitin focus on “illusion” as denigrating the reality of the universe. In fact, I’ve heard non-Advaitin Hindus from southern India say that they would rather have Christianity baptize all of India, than see one more hapless convert to Advaitism.
And Buddhism is hardly the most logical implication of Hinduism. Bah humbug.
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Georgess
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Not very knowledgeable in Hinduism, yet a few thoughts …
In Christanity, we are told man is made in the image of God - with a thirst and capacity to experince infinity - in love, beauty, knowlege and so on …(www.healingtheculture.org,as well as the book by same title elaborates on same ); hence the desire to worship , to be rid of the influence of evil etc are all common to us …and the love of values such as chastity, charity, honor for parents , teachers…
Belive it is Pope JohnPaul11 in the book ‘Crossing The threshold of hope’ wrote how there is truth in all faiths - like in concentric circles and the yearning to try to find The Truth is also in most hearts …and we have as well the desire ( more of a mission as far as Christians !) as how to overcome evil, not by being subordinate or pacifying ( or worshipping it !) but by and in The Power of The Lord , who not only help but becomes one with His children to help them …
(www.creationevidence.org - a ?noncath.website has some fascinating info. on the accuracy of blblical account of creation )
Being on these forums and having a good open heart, can help to come closer to The Truth - The Face of The Father, and satisfy that deep hunger of our hearts , to be in the embrace of The Father - yes Holiness, justice , Yet Love and Mercy …
G. K. Chesterton , in the book ‘Everlasting man’ also give a good overview on the diffrent faiths , I think …
In Christanity, we are told man is made in the image of God - with a thirst and capacity to experince infinity - in love, beauty, knowlege and so on …(www.healingtheculture.org,as well as the book by same title elaborates on same ); hence the desire to worship , to be rid of the influence of evil etc are all common to us …and the love of values such as chastity, charity, honor for parents , teachers…
Belive it is Pope JohnPaul11 in the book ‘Crossing The threshold of hope’ wrote how there is truth in all faiths - like in concentric circles and the yearning to try to find The Truth is also in most hearts …and we have as well the desire ( more of a mission as far as Christians !) as how to overcome evil, not by being subordinate or pacifying ( or worshipping it !) but by and in The Power of The Lord , who not only help but becomes one with His children to help them …
(www.creationevidence.org - a ?noncath.website has some fascinating info. on the accuracy of blblical account of creation )
Being on these forums and having a good open heart, can help to come closer to The Truth - The Face of The Father, and satisfy that deep hunger of our hearts , to be in the embrace of The Father - yes Holiness, justice , Yet Love and Mercy …
G. K. Chesterton , in the book ‘Everlasting man’ also give a good overview on the diffrent faiths , I think …
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neweyes
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A little humor: My 12-year-old son learned that you don’t go to your friend’s (who is a Hindu) home and exclaim, “Holy Cow!”
Boy did he get some awful looks!
oooops.
Boy did he get some awful looks!
oooops.
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JSmitty2005
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Uranage
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At their essence, they have nothing in common. Christianity is the only true religion, Hinduism is idolatry.
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freedomm
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Just like the religion of Jesus after him turned into a new pagan religion named ‘Christianity’ and invented new items in the name of Jesus, Hinduism too turned into a mythologiocal set of typical beliefs which was once initially monotheistic in Vedic period.
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