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There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?
 
History? He needs to catch up. There are priests today that are married.
And as far as women priests? Never has been - never will be.
 
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cissellp:
There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?
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There’s never been women Priests, that’s a lie. As far as married Priests, there are some today, that go into the priesthood after being married, adn in the Eastern Rite priests marry. Although those going into the preisthood in the Latin rite can’t marry and have children. Although it wasn’t until I believe the 11th century that it was stringently enforced that priests were to remain celibate and not marry. This was done for a couple reasons, to allow men to go off as missionaries without worrying about leaving behind a wife and child, and because the priest can devote all his time and energy to taking care of his flock.
 
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in the Eastern Rite priests marry.
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This is not quite correct. Married men can be ordained, but ordained men cannot get married. So, there are married priests, but priests do not get married!

Apologies for my nitpicking. 🙂
 
As I recall there was a story about an attempt by a bishop in a communist country like Czechoslovakia to ordain some women priests for ministry to women in some prison camps. After the wall came down and this came out it became common knowledge that they never were priests because it is not possible to ordain a woman, only to attempt to do so.
 
Heh there are some women in Canada and Boston who claim to be priests (saying a bishop ordained them). They were excommunicated.

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My Anglican husband thought too that the Catholic Church ordained women - I had to set him straight on that one!
 
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It’s never good when somebody is/has to be excommunicated. Necessary maybe, but never good. It’s not a joyous act.
 
Not meant in a joyous way. I meant good that the church took a hard stand.
 
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cissellp:
There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?
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Hi cissellp -

There were never women priests ordained in the Catholic Church.
This lie stems from the fact that there WERE, however, female Deaconesses in the early Church.
They were appointed for purposes of modesty when performing baptisms on other women. In those days, the person being baptized would either be naked or nearly naked when being immersed, so women were used for that purpose.
I have had this very debate with “Catholic” women in the workplace. Some lies die hard . . .

God Bless.

"Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome
 
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there WERE, however, female Deaconesses in the early Church.
They were appointed for purposes of modesty when performing baptisms on other women.
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Again, I’m a nitpick, but I’d like to clarify this point. These women were NOT ordained. They were, as you mentioned, “appointed” to aid in baptisms.
 
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cissellp:
There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?
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Celibacy more recently become a requirement for the priesthood, so many priests in history did marry. As for women I think not. As someone else said never was never will.
 
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History? He needs to catch up. There are priests today that are married.
And as far as women priests? Never has been - never will be.
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I thought celibacy now is a requirement for the priesthood, you know the church is his bride? I know of deacons who can marry, my grandfather was one. Though he did many of the same things as a priest he had restrictions and was not a priest. Could you being mixing them together on accident?
 
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BryPGuy89:
I thought celibacy now is a requirement for the priesthood, you know the church is his bride? I know of deacons who can marry, my grandfather was one. Though he did many of the same things as a priest he had restrictions and was not a priest. Could you being mixing them together on accident?
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I think he is mixing them up. I have never heard of such a thing. I know that if a man becomes a widower and then has a calling to the priesthood then yes he can become ordained as a priest. But, there is no such thing as a married priest in the Roman Catholic Church.
 
elvisman said:
Hi cissellp -

There were never women priests ordained in the Catholic Church.
This lie stems from the fact that there WERE, however, female Deaconesses in the early Church.
They were appointed for purposes of modesty when performing baptisms on other women. In those days, the person being baptized would either be naked or nearly naked when being immersed, so women were used for that purpose.
I have had this very debate with “Catholic” women in the workplace. Some lies die hard . . .

God Bless.

"Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome
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If one looks into the order of deaconess in the eastern churches you will find that some of them “ordained” deaconesses as late as the 17th century. The Egyptian Orthodox are thinking about restoring the order. Closer examination of the job discription of a deaconess shows that they were no different then the Sisters of the Roman Catholic Church in that rather than living in isolation like the Carmelites they taught, nursed, and performed duties outside the convent or monastery. In a sense based on job discription we have had deaconesses in thr Roman Church for centuries.
 
elvisman said:
Hi cissellp -

There were never women priests ordained in the Catholic Church.
This lie stems from the fact that there WERE, however, female Deaconesses in the early Church.
They were appointed for purposes of modesty when performing baptisms on other women. In those days, the person being baptized would either be naked or nearly naked when being immersed, so women were used for that purpose.
I have had this very debate with “Catholic” women in the workplace. Some lies die hard . . .

God Bless.

"Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome
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I hope people get this one in their head, as the subject of women priests comes up time and again. Proponents of women becoming priests almost always cite the subject of deaconesses for their argument. As elvis said—the person being baptized was usually naked or nearly so, and of course women would be the assistants in the case of females being baptized.
As rwoehmke referred to, in a sense nuns are the continuation of deaconesses already.

I’m just reiterating what elvisman and rwoehmke said because it’s a question people often get asked in the workplace or social situations.
 
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cissellp:
There was an engineer were I work that made a remark under his breath about how in the history of the Catholic church priest were married and some where even women is that true?
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In all such cases, please ask him to prove these allegations. But be sure to do your homework also so that when he brings forth a bunch of anti-catholic claptrap be sure to have the antidote.

Of course, it is highly probable that he will refuse the truth but hopefully a seed will be planted that will take root at a later date.

Peace! 👍
 
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