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Bahman
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Jesus is God. God is infinite. We are finite. So we cannot possibly make Jesus to suffer.
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HelenRose
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Why did he weep and sweat tears of blood in the Garden of Gethsemane if He did not suffer?
He was True Man and True God.
He suffered as we suffer. He loved us enough to come to us and suffer with and for us.
He was True Man and True God.
He suffered as we suffer. He loved us enough to come to us and suffer with and for us.
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Della
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We aren’t making Jesus suffer. He did suffer in his humanity, since he was fully human as well as fully divine. This is a mystery–something we can look into but never truly understand with, as you so rightly pointed out, our finite understanding. And yet, this is what Christ revealed about himself–that he suffered, that he died, that he rose again from the dead–as a human being. In his divinity he remains ever the same, but in his humanity he could and did change from day to day. If this were not true he’d have remained a zygote in his mother’s womb and never have done anything.
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HelenRose
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So you do believe that Jesus is God. You are absolutely right.
However you do not accept the fact that Jesus came to Earth as a baby, as a human.
The Church teaches that Jesus is both true God and True Man.
I realize that to believe this is a matter of faith and knowledge of what the Catholic Church teaches.
Hopefully having taken that first step is recognizing that Jesus is God you will continue to study and come to realize the fullness of faith.
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GEddie
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By becoming a human being, he became a candidate for suffering.
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ChristianDude
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I’m pretty sure being executed by crucifixion qualifies as suffering. 
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Padres1969
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Jesus was also man. Man can most certainly suffer.
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MaryHelp777
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Jesus was fully God AND FULLY MAN.
Jesus had to atone for the sins of all mankind as God in Man,
Because:
Only God could pay our infinite debt of punishment owed from sin. AND because only man earned that suffering and needed to atone to get into Heaven.
What did GOD do? He, as God, in the form of His Son, truly God became truly God incarnate as a Man, to pay our debt for us.
“By His stripes we are healed.”
Jesus told the Apostles, He would “suffer grievously at the hands of sinful men in Jerusalem, be put to death. And on the third day rise again.”
Jesus suffered physical pain.
Jesus died physically.
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thephilosopher6
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Jesus was man and God united into one person known as the Hypostatic Union. Since he was human he did feel suffering. Don’t fall into the heresy of Docetism.
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MaryHelp777
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Luke 24:25-26
And He said to them, "O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?”
Luke 24:46
Verse Concepts
and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,
Acts 3:18
"But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.
Acts 17:2-3
And according to Paul’s custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.”
Acts 26:22-23
“So, having obtained help from God, I stand to this day testifying both to small and great, stating nothing but what the Prophets and Moses said was going to take place; that the Christ was to suffer, and that by reason of His resurrection from the dead He would be the first to proclaim light both to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”
1 Corinthians 15:3
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
Genesis 22:2
He said, “Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.”
Psalm 55:12-14
For it is not an enemy who reproaches me, Then I could bear it; Nor is it one who hates me who has exalted himself against me, Then I could hide myself from him. But it is you, a man my equal, My companion and my familiar friend; We who had sweet fellowship together Walked in the house of God in the throng.
Psalm 5
My soul is among lions; I must lie among those who breathe forth fire, Even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows And their tongue a sharp sword.
Hebrews 13:11-12
For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Psalm 22:1
My God, my God, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.
Psalm 69:21
They also gave me gall for my food And for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.
Luke 9:22
saying, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised up on the third day.”
Matthew 17:12
but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands."
Mark 9:12
And He said to them, "Elijah does first come and restore all things. And yet how is it written of the Son of Man that He will suffer many things and be treated with contempt?
Matthew 20:18-19
“Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn Him to death, and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.”
Mark 10:33-34
saying, "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and will hand Him over to the Gentiles. “They will mock Him and spit on Him, and scourge Him and kill Him, and three days later He will rise again.”
Luke 18:31-32
Then He took the twelve aside and said to them, "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all things which are written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. "For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and mistreated and spit upon,
Mark 9:31
For He was teaching His disciples and telling them, “The Son of Man is to be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill Him; and when He has been killed, He will rise three days later.”
Luke 17:25
Verse Concepts
"But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
Luke 20:13-15
"The owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ "But when the vine-growers saw him, they reasoned with one another, saying, ‘This is the heir; let us kill him so that the inheritance will be ours.’ "So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What, then, will the owner of the vineyard do to them?
Luke 22:15
And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
And He said to them, "O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! “Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?”
Luke 24:46
Verse Concepts
and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,
Acts 3:18
"But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.
Acts 17:2-3
And according to Paul’s custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.”
Acts 26:22-23
“So, having obtained help from God, I stand to this day testifying both to small and great, stating nothing but what the Prophets and Moses said was going to take place; that the Christ was to suffer, and that by reason of His resurrection from the dead He would be the first to proclaim light both to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”
1 Corinthians 15:3
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
Genesis 22:2
He said, “Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.”
Psalm 55:12-14
For it is not an enemy who reproaches me, Then I could bear it; Nor is it one who hates me who has exalted himself against me, Then I could hide myself from him. But it is you, a man my equal, My companion and my familiar friend; We who had sweet fellowship together Walked in the house of God in the throng.
Psalm 5
My soul is among lions; I must lie among those who breathe forth fire, Even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows And their tongue a sharp sword.
Hebrews 13:11-12
For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
Psalm 22:1
My God, my God, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.
Psalm 69:21
They also gave me gall for my food And for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.
Luke 9:22
saying, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised up on the third day.”
Matthew 17:12
but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands."
Mark 9:12
And He said to them, "Elijah does first come and restore all things. And yet how is it written of the Son of Man that He will suffer many things and be treated with contempt?
Matthew 20:18-19
“Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn Him to death, and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.”
Mark 10:33-34
saying, "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death and will hand Him over to the Gentiles. “They will mock Him and spit on Him, and scourge Him and kill Him, and three days later He will rise again.”
Luke 18:31-32
Then He took the twelve aside and said to them, "Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and all things which are written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. "For He will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and mistreated and spit upon,
Mark 9:31
For He was teaching His disciples and telling them, “The Son of Man is to be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill Him; and when He has been killed, He will rise three days later.”
Luke 17:25
Verse Concepts
"But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
Luke 20:13-15
"The owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ "But when the vine-growers saw him, they reasoned with one another, saying, ‘This is the heir; let us kill him so that the inheritance will be ours.’ "So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What, then, will the owner of the vineyard do to them?
Luke 22:15
And He said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;
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MaryHelp777
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Matthew 4:1-3
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry.
Luke 4:1-3
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by the devil. And He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He became hungry.
Mark 1:13
And He was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to Him.
Matthew 2:13
Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.”
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John 15:18-20
"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. "Remember the word that I said to you, 'A slave is not greater than his master ’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also.
1 Corinthians 2:8
the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;
Luke 24:20
and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him.
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry.
Luke 4:1-3
Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by the devil. And He ate nothing during those days, and when they had ended, He became hungry.
Mark 1:13
And He was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to Him.
Matthew 2:13
Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him.”
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John 15:18-20
"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. "Remember the word that I said to you, 'A slave is not greater than his master ’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also.
1 Corinthians 2:8
the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;
Luke 24:20
and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him.
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MaryHelp777
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The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, all testify in the Bible, that Jesus would, and did suffer, a suffering so great that it physically killed Him.
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MaryHelp777
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The apostle John teaches how denying that Jesus is man is of the spirit of the antichrist (1 John 4:2; 2 John 7). Jesus’s humanity is displayed in the fact that he was born as a baby from a human mother (Luke 2:7; Galatians 4:4), that he became weary (John 4:6), thirsty (John 19:28), and hungry (Matthew 4:2), and that he experienced the full range of human emotions such as marvel (Matthew 8:10) and sorrow (John 11:35). He lived on earth just as we do.
And as the whole Bible Testifies, He suffered grievous bodily harm, and physically died from the torture.
And as the whole Bible Testifies, He suffered grievous bodily harm, and physically died from the torture.
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MaryHelp777
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Bahman
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Then why he didn’t mentioned that he is a man instead he said that he is God?
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Bahman
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Then why he didn’t claim that he is a man?
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Bahman
Guest
So why he didn’t say that he is the assumed human? Instead he claimed that he is God.
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Bahman
Guest
Why he claimed that he is God then?
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Bahman
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Are you sure that he could suffer when he claimed that he is God?I’m pretty sure being executed by crucifixion qualifies as suffering.
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Bahman
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How are you so sure that he can suffer? He clearly mentioned that he is God.
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