I love this, it makes a lot of sense.True, the human soul is designed to function through a body. (We are not angels encased in physical matter like Aronofsky’s cinematic depiction of the Nephilim.) My own view is that at the moment of death, God endows the disembodied soul with preternatural gifts of knowledge, consciousness, and perception. This would account for the vivid memories of the medically dead who can describe things and events during their death that they could not otherwise have known.
How did you come to that conclusion?Soul however cannot carry any information within, most importantly personality.
Soul is immaterial and it cannot have any form at least within hylomorphic dualism which is what Catholic believe.The soul is not blank–it is formed by all that we do and think in our lives --and Christ judges the state of the soul at death.
Soul is not functional without a body. So the soul alone cannot be judged.The mind is restored prior to the everlasting life. God has it all in His own mind.
In fact, it might be at the moment of restoration that judgment takes place, because the dead person would then understand their life and actions more clearly than ever before during the life.
I am sorry I meant identity rather than personality.The “personality” is overrated. Personality is to a great extent the result of the hard knocks we receive in our life. It is the content of our mind/psyche that goes with us into the other life.
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For this (bold part) you need a body unless you argue that God is omnipotent and is able to feed soul with knowledge, etc.True, the human soul is designed to function through a body. (We are not angels encased in physical matter like Aronofsky’s cinematic depiction of the Nephilim.) My own view is that at the moment of death, God endows the disembodied soul with preternatural gifts of knowledge, consciousness, and perception. This would account for the vivid memories of the medically dead who can describe things and events during their death that they could not otherwise have known.
Can you please give an example of immaterial process?A human is a being with both material and immaterial processes. That’s the nature of being a rational being. While the material processes end at death, the immaterial processes continue.
We are talking about death not final resurrection.The intellect/mind persists after death. Albeit without the (name removed by moderator)ut it would naturally receive from the material body. Plus, all minds will be reunited with the body in the resurrection.
I am not mixing anything. What I am stressing is that soul just could only function with a body hence it cannot be judged at death.You’re mixing two conflicting metaphysics. You can’t say that hylemorphic dualism is internally inconsistent because it doesn’t agree with materialistic assumptions. Hylemorphic dualism is by definition inconsistent with materialism and does not come to the same conclusions about the mind materialism does.
Soul is not functional without a body. That is your church teaching.The soul is much more fully conscious and aware than the brain.
However, the brain is not capable of perception of the soul, therefore you have no apprehension of the awareness of the soul, or even its existence, other than the fact that you have thoughts in your brain that appear out of nowhere (the soul moves the body / the brain to have thoughts it wants the body to have).
There is no “unconscious mind” - that is an invention of those who cannot accept that there is a soul, that is fully conscious in itself, and moving the body temporally to be the expression of what it knows in time. The being of the soul is why sentences and paragraphs and ideas take shape in your brain’s thoughts making full sense as each word appears in your thinking.
I am sure you could do better than this.Tis not blank.
Upon death he will be restored to memory etc.
False premise.
End of discussion.
What is the position of church on NDE? Is it consistent with hylomorphic dualism?Actually, judging from actual NDE’s people don’t lose their identity and they can remember. For instance people can remember their loved ones. Think of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. The rich man died and he tried to save his brothers.
That is church teaching not my conclusion. A soul only is functional with a body.How did you come to that conclusion?
Bahman, what is the Name of this web forum?Soul is not functional without a body. That is your church teaching.
You’re not discussing hylemorphic dualism or the Aristotlean-Thomist philosophy of the mind then, if those are the assumptions you’re starting with. The rational mind is necessarily an immaterial process in Thomism, and Thomists would disagree with any materialist that a purely material process could explain intentionality, and materialists have still not been able to appropriately address that challenge without going on to deny intentionality, consciousness, and the mind as non-existent.Can you please give an example of immaterial process?
We are talking about death not final resurrection.
I am not mixing anything. What I am stressing is that soul just could only function with a body hence it cannot be judged at death.