Leader of Anglican ordinariate admits interest has waned [CC]

[FrDavid96]

…But, as we in the Continuum say, the concept of disaffected Anglicans is sort of like unicorns. Mythical beasts.

…

GKC

Now I have to admit that I can’t make any sense of that part. From what I can find (we believe everything on the internet, right), 5 whole diocese have left TEC. If that’s not an indication that someone’s “disaffected” what would be?

Admitting that we can’t believe everything posted there, when I read through the wiki article on “anglican realignment” it sounds to me that there are many people disaffected. If they aren’t, then there’s quite an internet conspiracy just to feed us misinformation.

 

[GKC]

There are 37 Churches or Comunities listed on the North American Oridinariate site. The picture of the clergy retreat has 32 members present by my count.

Might be an indicator of the number moving over there.

That’s lower than I would have guessed, based on little or nothing. I’d have expected maybe 50 clergy. But, a retreat is not necessarily a total. Could be more.

GKC

 

[GKC]

Now I have to admit that I can’t make any sense of that part. From what I can find (we believe everything on the internet, right), 5 whole diocese have left TEC. If that’s not an indication that someone’s “disaffected” what would be?

Admitting that we can’t believe everything posted there, when I read through the wiki article on “anglican realignment” it sounds to me that there are many people disaffected. If they aren’t, then there’s quite an internet conspiracy just to feed us misinformation.

Yep, 5 dioceses, the last South Carolina, in 2012, and a lot of individuals, and the odd parish, stretching back to around 1978. What I meant was there aren’t many more disaffected Episcopalians, currently. And those that are are over on the evangelical side, not the Anglo-Catholics. The Continuum drained off most of the rebel minded Anglo-Catholics long ago.

After each successive enormity from the gracious Katherine, we in my parish look expectantly to the door. Are there unicorns coming? Very rarely.

What that realignment article suggests to such as me is that what is likely to occur is some sort of rift in the Anglican Communion, along the Global South/English speaking developed world lines. As the article says, the realignment is, unlike the previous departures, about how to realign, not how to leave and go to the RCC, or the Continuum…

South Carolina, incidentally, hasn’t moved to the ACNA, and there was not a hint of a break from +Lawrence’s oversight, to anything else, when the diocese departed. They are under episcopal oversight from some African Anglican jurisdictions. In the end, I’d expect them to go to ACNA, in due course.That is, the process now is not to leave the official Anglican world, but to rearrange it.

I don’t see that as propitious for increase in either your or my world. Not enough unicorns.

GKC

 

[FrDavid96]

Yep, 5 dioceses, the last South Carolina, in 2012, and a lot of individuals, and the odd parish, stretching back to around 1978. What I meant was there aren’t many more disaffected Episcopalians, currently. And those that are are over on the evangelical side, not the Anglo-Catholics. The Continuum drained off most of the rebel minded Anglo-Catholics long ago.

After each successive enormity from the gracious Katherine, we in my parish look expectantly to the door. Are there unicorns coming? Very rarely.

What that realignment article suggests to such as me is that what is likely to occur is some sort of rift in the Anglican Communion, along the Global South/English speaking developed world lines. As the article says, the realignment is, unlike the previous departures, about how to realign, not how to leave and go to the RCC, or the Continuum…

South Carolina, incidentally, hasn’t moved to the ACNA, and there was not a hint of a break from +Lawrence’s oversight, to anything else, when the diocese departed. They are under episcopal oversight from some African Anglican jurisdictions. In the end, I’d expect them to go to ACNA, in due course.That is, the process now is not to leave the official Anglican world, but to rearrange it.

I don’t see that as propitious for increase in either your or my world. Not enough unicorns.

GKC

Well, that’s a unicorn of a different color.*

Disaffected is one thing (there seems to be a great deal of that) but “intending to leave ones current affiliation,” whatever that might be, is something different.

I took your first post on this to mean that: the disaffected being as rare as unicorns was another way of saying that there’s nearly no one in Anglicanism who is discontented. That I had a hard time believing.

• not really, but I couldn’t help writing that.

 

[GKC]

Well, that’s a unicorn of a different color.*

Disaffected is one thing (there seems to be a great deal of that) but “intending to leave ones current affiliation,” whatever that might be, is something different.

I took your first post on this to mean that: the disaffected being as rare as unicorns was another way of saying that there’s nearly no one in Anglicanism who is discontented. That I had a hard time believing.

• not really, but I couldn’t help writing that.

Sometimes I write more clearly than at other times.

GKC

 

[FrDavid96]

Sometimes I write more clearly than at other times.

GKC

I disagree.

I never have any difficulty reading your writing. Not once. It always looks the same to me. Your writing is quite consistent from one post to another, and it always appears very crisp and sharp; at least to me. Near letter quality, as we used to say.

I do, however, sometimes have difficulty understanding what you mean by that writing.

 

[GKC]

I disagree.

I never have any difficulty reading your writing. Not once. It always looks the same to me. Your writing is quite consistent from one post to another, and it always appears very crisp and sharp; at least to me. Near letter quality, as we used to say.

I do, however, sometimes have difficulty understanding what you mean by that writing.

And there is an example.

GKC