Man Faces Death For Allegedly Converting To Christianity

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Just your basic peaceful religion at work. This is not a few radical, religious, zealots we’re talking about here, it’s their law. I am not casting aspersions here, on the contrary; I think we can learn from these people. Not about Islam, but about knowing when/how to the draw the line and the grave consequences for not stinking to your principles.
 
An Afghan man? An Afghan man? We invaded their country in order to install a regime that executes people for converting to Christianity? Wow, good job we’ve done there.

Mike
 
According to the article, the new Afghan constitution is based on Sharia law, and its pretty well known that this includes some medieval punishments.

But the man converted 16 years ago! Back then, it wasn’t a crime to convert but was legal. Retroactive crimes are a violation of logic.

I had to wonder why this was even brought to trial, so I re-read the article. Apparently his own family filed the complaint …wow. 😦
 
We didn’t invade Afghanistan to free them, we invaded because they were harboring al-Qaeda. However, I think we should have some influence here.

Pajamas Media is following the story

This is a good example of why Islam is dangerous.

Via AP from Kabul, Afghanistan: An Afghan man who recently admitted he converted to Christianity faces the death penalty under the country’s strict Islamic legal system. The trial is a critical test of Afghanistan’s new constitution and democratic government. More here. Blog reactions from Michelle Malkin, who has been all over this story, and Fore Left!

READ Fore Left!
 
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MikeWM:
An Afghan man? An Afghan man? We invaded their country in order to install a regime that executes people for converting to Christianity? Wow, good job we’ve done there.

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There are different interpretation that can be gleaned from this, but I see it as proof that we liberated them from terrorists within and did not foist our way of life on them. My glass is half full. 🙂
 
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Troy7:
When a man possibly faces DEATH, I call that a glass half empty
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I call it an outrage and a test for the current government in Afghanistan.
 
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gilliam:
I call it an outrage and a test for the current government in Afghanistan.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. You read stories like this and all of the other atrocities too numerous to mention and you realize that part of the world hasn’t come very far in 2000 years. Actually when you take into account this part of the worlds penchant for partial birth abortion we haven’t come too far either. It’s never too late to change though. God willing the eyes and hearts of the world will be opened to His truth. What better time to start than the season of Lent.
 
I saw this story on TV last night. He was apparently arrested for having a Bible in his possession. For the US to “follow the case” and make “low-key appeals” is not enough.

U.S. makes low-key appeal in Afghan case

Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration issued a subdued appeal Tuesday to Afghanistan to permit a Christian convert on trial for his life to practice his faith in the predominantly Muslim country.

The State Department, however, did not urge the U.S. ally in the war against terrorism to terminate the trial. Officials said the Bush administration did not want to interfere with Afghanistan’s sovereignty.

The case involves an Afghan man who converted from Islam and was arrested last month after his family accused him of becoming a Christian. The conversion is a crime under Afghanistan’s Islamic laws.

Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns and department spokesman Sean McCormack asked Afghanistan to conduct the trial “in a transparent way.” Burns said he told Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah, with whom he held talks at the department, that “we would follow the case closely.”

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Nicholas Burns, undersecretary for political affairs, said he understands the complexities of the case and promised the United States would respect Afghan sovereignty. However, he said, Afghans should be free to choose their own religion, and he believes the nation’s constitution supports that.

“We hope the Afghan constitution is going to be upheld,” Burns said. “If he has the right of freedom of religion, that ought to be respected.”

Rahman’s case could force Afghan President Hamid Karzai into the undesirable position of mediating the matter. Karzai has to placate an ever-restless populace in turbulent post-war Afghanistan, but at the same time, he needs Western assistance to stave off the remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda.

cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/21/afghan.christian/index.html

Looks like there is freedom of religion in the Afghan constitution. So it is I guess an issue for their court system.

The U.S. has 23,000 troops in the country; Germany has 2,700. Canada has 2,300 stationed there, and Italy has 1,775, according to Reuters.

All four nations have expressed displeasure over the situation, some even saying that it is intolerable that soldiers of all faiths die to protect a country threatening to kill its own for converting to Christianity.
 
West must protect this man, it´s necessary, without this, the militar presence is unnecessary.
 
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Islamic civil rights group says conversion a personal, not state matter

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 3/22/2006) - A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today called on the government of Afghanistan to release Abdul Rahman, a man facing the death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity.

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) says the man’s conversion is a personal matter not subject to the intervention of the state.

cair-net.org/
Thank them!
 
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Troy7:
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But when that man faces death for Christ - I call that a glass almost full.

Death shall have no victory -
for the Light shines among us.
 
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But when that man faces death for Christ - I call that a glass almost full.

Death shall have no victory -
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He would definitely be a martyr. If the Afghan government was smart they should never allow a martyr for Christianity if they don’t want the whole place to be converted. It would have the opposite effect that they wish for. I personally think we need to intervene, but I am not sure our (name removed by moderator)ut would be accepted. After all, they have their own government.
 
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He would definitely be a martyr. If the Afghan government was smart they should never allow a martyr for Christianity if they don’t want the whole place to be converted. It would have the opposite effect that they wish for. I personally think we need to intervene, but I am not sure our (name removed by moderator)ut would be accepted. After all, they have their own government.
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I agree. This may very well be God’s own test for the future of that country. We, as a political entity, should not intervene because it is not our battle. It belongs to the people of Afghanistan and their relationship with God. It may be necessary for this one man to fall in order to bring others to Christ, let alone an entire nation. God weaves His plan in baby steps, as we’ve seen from Genesis to the present day. I view this one man’s plight as one of those steps.
 
During the time of the Spanish Inquisition, is it not true that there were many cases in Spain where a Jew would face torture and death if he first agreed to convert to RC but then after having thought it over, went back to his original religion of Judaism?
 
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Kirane:
During the time of the Spanish Inquisition, is it not true that there were many cases in Spain where a Jew would face torture and death if he first agreed to convert to RC but then after having thought it over, went back to his original religion of Judaism?
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Not that I know of.

The Inquisition went mostly after what we call heritics and what the Muslems call apostates. People who left Catholicism and were now preaching a different religion.
 
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gilliam:
Not that I know of.

The Inquisition went mostly after what we call heritics and what the Muslems call apostates. People who left Catholicism and were now preaching a different religion.
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There were about 300,000 Jews forced to convert to Roman Catholicism in Spain during the mass conversions of 1391 and 1412. What had happened to many of them is read in the statement of Bishop Don Lope de Barrientos, Bishop of Cuenca, as he was speaking to Samiiento: “And it was not sufficient for you to take their goods, but you also executed honored citizens, some of them you have hanged, others you have burnt to death, without giving them a hearing and without having anything to justify their execution.” Cronica de Juan II, p. 670a… Also, there was a massacre of Marranos (converted Jews) at Lisbon in April of 1506, where about 4000 Jews, young and old, were dragged from their houses and killed, in some cases by being burned alive.
 
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Kirane:
There were about 300,000 Jews forced to convert to Roman Catholicism in Spain during the mass conversions of 1391 and 1412. What had happened to many of them is read in the statement of Bishop Don Lope de Barrientos, Bishop of Cuenca, as he was speaking to Samiiento: “And it was not sufficient for you to take their goods, but you also executed honored citizens, some of them you have hanged, others you have burnt to death, without giving them a hearing and without having anything to justify their execution.” Cronica de Juan II, p. 670a… Also, there was a massacre of Marranos (converted Jews) at Lisbon in April of 1506, where about 4000 Jews, young and old, were dragged from their houses and killed, in some cases by being burned alive.
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Well, it was history, like St Paul threw stones when he was a jew to kill St Stephen or there are too christian martyrs killed by jews in Middle Ages in Spain, less of course, but there were.
The antisemitism was important in those times, but the interest rates were abusive and many of the bankers were jews, they are hated and not only in catholicism, Luther, spoke very important discurses against jews.
But now, we have got better in that.
 
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