"The smoke of satan has entered the church", who said so?

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Hello all,

It is often claimed Pope Paul VI made the statement, “the smoke of satan has entered the church.”

The claim is made here, here, and here, and here.

But, can anyone provide the actual source? WikiQuote claims it was from a homily in 1972 (see link) – anyone know where that homily is? I am very interested in finding the source of this quote, assuming it was said at all!?

Also, I do not endorse any of the links above! One is rather anti-Catholic, another seems to be ultra-traditional. Visit at your own risk.

God Bless,

Francisco
 
I’m not sure of the exact quote, but I’ve only ever heard it attributed to Paul VI.

The homilies of ‘pre-internet’ popes are probably not easily - if ever - accessable, as are many of those of John Paul II and Benedict XVI.
 
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Would it be possible to get a larger script of it? I would like to know the context of the quote.
 
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Would it be possible to get a larger script of it? I would like to know the context of the quote.
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Wikipedia provides the whole sentence:

It is as if from some mysterious crack, no, it is not mysterious, from some crack the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God.

Looks like a selective quote. He was certainly being dramatic but he was not saying that Satan was in the church.
 
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:cool: If anyone knows Italian, don’t be shy – we’d love a translation!

Francisco
 
Said something similar to smoke entering into the sanctuary.

I have also Heard it attributed to Paul VI.

Which gets me thinking…we don’t hear much about paul vi do we. I will be quite honet with everyone here. When I think of paul vi, I think of the allowing of the VII reform go awry. Was paul asleep at the wheel when it came ot liturgical reform? Did he go too far or was the Pauline MIssal hijacked? (maybe some people actually Like the Pauline Mass).

What I don’t like about the Pauline Mass is the fact that I can go to the next town and the the mass there Barely resembles the one in my town. Yes structure is the same but unless one knew the structure of the mass then they wouldn’t say it was the same.
 
This is a rather poor translation off of the Google function for same, just for that paragraph:
Referring to the situation of the Church today, the Saint Padre asserts of having the feeling that “gives some fissure has entered the smoke of Satana in the tempio of God”. There is the doubt, the uncertainty, the problematic one, the restlessness, the dissatisfaction, the comparison. He does not trust himself to us more the Church; he trusts himself to us the first profane prophet who comes to speak us from some newspaper or some social motion in order to run after it and to ask he if he has the formula of the true life. And we do not perceive we are of instead already masters and masters. The doubt in our consciences has entered, and has entered for windows that instead had to be opened to the light. From science, that it is made for give us of the truth who not distaccano from God but ce makes it to still try more and to celebrate with greater intensity, has come instead the critic, has come the doubt. The scientists are those who more thoughtfully and more painfully they bend the forehead. And they end in order to teach: “I do not know, we do not know, we cannot know”. The school becomes arena of confusion and sometimes absurd contradictions. The progress for being able is celebrated to then demolish it with the stranger revolutions and more radicals, in order to deny all that that it has been conquered, in order to return primiti to you after to have so much exalted the progresses of the modern world.
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I’m wading through it…

Peace

John
 
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