Thoughts on Saint Peter

[Syrtis16]

I love Saint Peter, and I believe learning about him brought me closer to Christ.
I wanted to ask about something I have been considering recently.

I am forever intrigued by typology & prefiguration. Our Lord never did anything by chance, accident or for the sake of it. And I enjoy learning about the intellectual depth of his words and actions.

Therefore I would like to ask - do you think Peter is literally the representation of who we are as people, and that is why Christ chose him? Does Peter prefigure us, as Christ’s people?

Peter was fallibile, he was capable of error, cowardice, bad decision making - yet his heart was pure, he gave all he could to the Lord, realising his own fallibility yet striving to be the best he could as a display of his affection for Christ.

I see a link between Peter and ourselves. Imperfect, in need of enlightenment, often wrong, though capable of getting it right, yet we require guidance, though we are capable of so much that is pleasing to Our Lord.

When Jesus met Peter for the first time he sends Peter out into the deep, asking him to cast his net. He retrieves more fish than he has ever laid eyes on, and this we believe prefigures Peter’s eventual missionary work into the heart of the Pagan realm. Yet - even more than that, I believe Peter himself - his nature, manner and heart - prefigures us as a people in all his imperfections, desires, kindness, grace and fallibility.

Does that make sense?

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

Prophecy of the Popes motto number 113 for the next and last Pope:

Petrus Romanus, qui
pascet oves in mul-
tis tribulationibus:
quibus transactis ci-
vitas septicollis di-
ruetur, & Judex tre
medus judicabit po
pulum suum. Finis.

**Translation:
Peter of Rome, who will feed his sheep in many tribulations: when these things are finished the city of the seven hills will be destroyed, & the terrible Judge will judge his people. The End.

Of the many mottos of this prophecy, number 113 is the only one that notes (and emphasizes) a proper name for a Pope.
Notice too the parallel between “who will feed his sheep” in the motto and our Lord’s instruction to St. Peter: “Feed my sheep.”

My opinion is that the the next Pope, “Petrus Romanus,” is Simon bar Jonas: St. Peter.
**

 

[Syrtis16]

Sorry I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say, nor how it has relevance to my thoughts

 

[jeffrey_erwin]

Sorry I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say, nor how it has relevance to my thoughts

**You said that you love St. Peter, and I thank you for expressing that emotion. I have a very high regard for him myself.
The point of my post is that, according to Fr. Arnold Wion’s LIGNUM VITAE (1595), the last Pope is to be “Petrus Romanus.”
I expressed my opinion that this “Peter of Rome” will be none other than St. Peter himself.

I thought that the idea of St. Peter returning in the flesh to lead us in the Final Days would be pleasing to you, that’s all.**

 

[Kurisu35712]

I love Saint Peter, and I believe learning about him brought me closer to Christ.
I wanted to ask about something I have been considering recently.

I am forever intrigued by typology & prefiguration. Our Lord never did anything by chance, accident or for the sake of it. And I enjoy learning about the intellectual depth of his words and actions.

Therefore I would like to ask - do you think Peter is literally the representation of who we are as people, and that is why Christ chose him? Does Peter prefigure us, as Christ’s people?

As to the first question… I’m not sure? Yes, to an extent? Peter, to me, was very much a human being. Not basic, exactly, but… I can’t get the word I want. I guess I just mean he was very human. As you said, fallible, perhaps prone to acting on impulse, and yet so very genuine and earnest. And he was Jesus’s best friend and right hand man. For all his faults, he also possessed great virtues. Faith obviously, strength, loyalty (despite the whole denying Jesus thing), and many others. By no means perfect, and yet Jesus chose him specifically to be the first leader of His Church and His closest friend on Earth. Then again, John may have been His favorite.

I feel like I should counter your first question with another question. How different are we all, truly, from each other? We all possess similarities even if we don’t always choose to see them, and yet none of us are the same, and God loves each of us individually. Peter *can *be seen as a representation of humanity to Jesus, but he was also individual and unique, as everyone else is from each other. Many parts, one Body if you will. So I’m not sure if I see Peter as a representation or prefiguring as the right way to think about it, but you certainly make a good case.

Peter was fallibile, he was capable of error, cowardice, bad decision making - yet his heart was pure, he gave all he could to the Lord, realising his own fallibility yet striving to be the best he could as a display of his affection for Christ.

I see a link between Peter and ourselves. Imperfect, in need of enlightenment, often wrong, though capable of getting it right, yet we require guidance, though we are capable of so much that is pleasing to Our Lord.

When Jesus met Peter for the first time he sends Peter out into the deep, asking him to cast his net. He retrieves more fish than he has ever laid eyes on, and this we believe prefigures Peter’s eventual missionary work into the heart of the Pagan realm. Yet - even more than that, I believe Peter himself - his nature, manner and heart - prefigures us as a people in all his imperfections, desires, kindness, grace and fallibility.

Does that make sense?