What? Catholic clergy can’t make mistakes? Did their presence convey to you that the Catholic Church is the One, True, Apostolic Church? Or did their presence just leave you feeling that they were just nice clergy from another nice Christian church?
What? Of course they can make mistakes. And I did not think to doubt that they were members of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, or that they were clergy, and Christian, and for all I know nice.
Not trying to get further entangled in this, but the bottom line is that people say what they want on the web (including, obviously, that it is a sin against the first commandment to attend an Episcopal liturgy) and then other people choose whether to read it or to do something else with their time.
Excatly; however, Catholics should consider it when examining their conscince next time they go to conffesion.Not trying to get further entangled in this, but the bottom line is that people say what they want on the web (including, obviously, that it is a sin against the first commandment to attend an Episcopal liturgy) and then other people choose whether to read it or to do something else with their time.
I’m sorry to have to say this, but sometimes you have a disturbing tendency to talk sense.Not trying to get further entangled in this, but the bottom line is that people say what they want on the web (including, obviously, that it is a sin against the first commandment to attend an Episcopal liturgy) and then other people choose whether to read it or to do something else with their time.
shaw:LOL. The Episcopal Mass is a very distant cry from Freemasonry or Communism. I would wager that you have never been to an Episcopalian Mass to compare. But rite II is nearly identical with the Novus Ordo Mass.
There are still some pretty big differences in content if you ask me (e.g., general absolution/penitential orders/use of the Decalogue, location of the peace in the service, use of sequence hymns), but Rite II is definitely similar to and modeled after the structure of the OF. (The musical choices tend to be pretty drastically different though, at least in my experience.)
Well, they call it Mass at least for what it’s worth. Are you speaking of the lack of Apostolic succession? During the last century there were a lot of bishops consecrations presided or co-presided by Utrecht Union old catholic bishops who held valid but irregular orders. So now Anglicans have valid but irregular orders.
I find it somewhat commonplace.
Yes, you are correct but I think most Catholics would not have any problems following the liturgy in the Episcopal Church. Plus the Catholic Mass has public confession/ assurance of forgiveness at the start of the service. Also music, in my experience, is reliably good in Episcopal parishes. And unlike some Lutherans, the Episcopalians don’t seem all caught up in modern hymns and “faux” protestant-like liturgies.
That’s probably the biggest practical obstacle for me. I don’t think my three-year-old could handle it if we went to mass at our parish and then drove down the street to go to the Episcopal church, or vice versa.
Ouch, $11,000? Wow, we’re struggling to put aside $4,700 to send our daughter to kindergarten at our parish school next year.
Yes, we’ve been inside the church for the Christmas program and it actually looks a lot more like a church than most Catholic churches built in the 20th century. Definitely beautiful inside. And I know they have an organist to play that shiny brass organ. Our parish has an ugly whitewashed organ which just sits there gathering dust. Not that our music is all bad; we sometimes get a violin and flute. The violinist is a tall blind man who has this amazing bass voice. He rarely sings, but when he does it renders the congregation absolutely silent.Well I think it’s fine, but I might be biased.
Ironically, more Episcopalian churches have features like altar rails that have disappeared from many RC churches in the US. The Anglican English vernacular hymnody tends to be different (and again, actually more “traditional” at times) than what is typically played in RC churches in the US.
Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I’ve tried to talk some Protestant friends into attending a Catholic mass before, but they’ve refused because they expect everybody to try to convert them.
Of course, not so radical that we haven’t all heard it a million times before.
