What is your take on "Jehovah's Witnesses" sect?

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So far negative comments by members but without fundamental reasons. 🤷
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This JW friend of mine was in fact one of the reasons I joined and became active here on CAF back in the year 2005. Here is a link to a thread I started in October, 2005 asking for advice on how to deal with her:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=79270

You see, she and I had been friends since around 1993 … on and off, because sometimes she would shun me without her ever giving me a reason why … She would just disappear for several years, and then return wanting to be friends again … until she felt like starting to ignore me again. I finally ended this cycle this past summer of 2013. So it was a friendship, and a very close friendship with someone whom I felt a deep understanding about many things, extending over a period of 20 years, and I did not give it up lightly … I definitely prayed about it first.

~~ the phoenix
 
To the ‘OP’ - I did some minor research (Google) and found this site you should also visit to learn a bit more about the JW religion: bible.ca/jw-questions.htm

Good luck in your discernment! 👍

Mike
 
Sam_777 said:
What is your take on “Jehovah’s Witnesses” sect other than not considering JESUS as GOD?

Because I personally admire their ethics compared to some other Christian sects:
  • Homosexual activity/same-sex marriages are forbidden.
  • Abortion is considered a murder.
  • Modesty in dress and grooming is frequently emphasized.
  • Gambling, drunkenness, illegal drugs, and tobacco use are forbidden.
  • Drinking of alcoholic beverages is permitted in moderation.
My only take on them that they emphasis on the name of GOD to be “Jehovah”, which I believe it should not, because GOD is universal, every nation could call Him by their native language!
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They are heretical non Christian Sects that follow false prophets. Stay Away. They are a made up group 120 years old.

Go with Christ Church founded by the Apostles. The Catholic Church which has even higher moral standards than JHW’s.
 
Sam_777 said:
What is your take on “Jehovah’s Witnesses” sect other than not considering JESUS as GOD?

Because I personally admire their ethics compared to some other Christian sects:
  • Homosexual activity/same-sex marriages are forbidden.
  • Abortion is considered a murder.
  • Modesty in dress and grooming is frequently emphasized.
  • Gambling, drunkenness, illegal drugs, and tobacco use are forbidden.
  • Drinking of alcoholic beverages is permitted in moderation.
My only take on them that they emphasis on the name of GOD to be “Jehovah”, which I believe it should not, because GOD is universal, every nation could call Him by their native language!
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Hi Sam. There are a couple of solid tracts on CA that cover their inconsistent doctrinal changes but here is a link that you should browse through. Poster DelsonJacobs is the guy to listen to. He is a former (and one-time dedicated JW) that is able to answer many questions in a straightforward way. Hope it helps.
 
My cousin was a JW. He told me that Jesus was not God just the Son of God. He also told me that there was no such thing as hell. While good souls resided in Heaven bad souls just stopped existing but they did not go to hell because it did not exist.
 
McCartney said:
My cousin was a JW. He told me that Jesus was not God just the Son of God. He also told me that there was no such thing as hell. While good souls resided in Heaven bad souls just stopped existing but they did not go to hell because it did not exist.
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According to my JW friend, she did not expect to go to Heaven. She believed that she would live on “Paradise Earth” after Armageddon.

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They deny the trinity (non-Christian).
They use a false Bible (missing 7 books, and the books they do have are incorrectly translated to suit their doctrines).
They made numerous false prophecies about when the world will end.
They change their teachings to suit their leaders (e.g. blood transfusions).
They do not celebrate birthdays or any holidays.
They shun people who leave (“disfellowshipped”).
They go door-to-door (“service”) to pass out literature and share their beliefs, but they are not interested in hearing what others have to say, just making converts. Also, they’re not allowed to read literature handed to them by others.
 
Everything you wrote is true of Mormonism, but not of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Celtic_Maiden said:
Marcus Grodi had an ex Jehovah Witness on EWTN from the Journey Home last week, well the conversation was unusual to say the least on there belief.

I. There are 3 Gods, - God the Father is one, God the Son is two- God the Holy Spirit is 3.
2. This belief is very disturbing so I hope I wont shock anyone but only repeating what the
ex Jehovah Witness said, here goes.

That God the Father had sex with Mary and then was born Jesus, the second God.
  1. That we can become God’s ourselves.
  2. That when they go door to door, they only say they believe in God, not the above, as they don’t want to shock the person in the beginning, its only when they are hooked into coming into the JW then they reveal the above, otherwise they try and make out at there door to door they believe the same as every other Christian, which they don’t.
  3. That after Joseph Smyth died which was not revealed to the general Public that he had 27 wives.
  4. They are now going back to having as many wives as they can afford at the moment.
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Many years ago a new couple moved next door to us and right away they came over to introduce themselves and, as JWs, offered to talk with us about God. I responded with a welcome to the neighborhood and my hope that as neighbors we could also become friends. But in order to be friends there would be NO discussion of religious matters. They very reluctantly agreed, and sometimes would backslide a bit and have to be reminded. After that we got along with them just fine.

When Christmas rolled around they wanted to invite us to a special service (NOT a Christmas celebration!). They just could not help themselves. They also had a hard time explaining how this special service was not a Christmas celebration, as they don’t celebrate Christmas.

They were good people and I know they had a hard time with their agreement not to discuss religion with us.
 
They have a fundamentally different faith tradition from Catholics and non-catholic trinitarians

I had a co worker that was/ is JW, he may have been the nicest individual I have met in the past 10 years!

They like to argue from scripture alone, like most non-catholic fundamentalist, yet stick to a criteria to follow, almost like a script.

They do have commonality with Catholics, in the sense that they have a governing body, which defines doctrine.

Their bible is translated within the framework of their tradition, and it contradicts the Greek from their own inter linear Greek translation.

I used to have them come to my door and I would tell them “I don’t know much about JW’s, so give me a brief overview of what it is to be a JW” they would give their reasons and debate a while, and were never rude, or hostile!

Usually, they come in pairs, and one is more well versed, than the other.

In light of my Caholic faith, their interpretation of scripture seems odd, but then again, many non-catholic trinitarians can be odd to me as well!

Best way to find out about JW’s is to go to JW sources!

God bless!
 
I once worked with a very nice lady who was JW. She never forced her religion on me but her mother always did.

I was about 20 at the time and one day I met her mother on the road. She told me that the world was ending soon to which I replied, “If that’s the case then let me go out and enjoy myself”. A reply which she was not expecting.
 
elizaveta01 said:
The few JW’s that I’ve know personally were very nice, dedicated, and sincere people. It’s unfortunate that they put their loyalty, time, and belief into the JW religion, which is wacky beyond belief.
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My thoughts exactly.

The JWs are sincere dedicated people doing their best to serve God in the way they know. I’d even suggest they might be more dedicated than a lot of Catholics or mainstream Christians.
elizaveta01 said:
I actually did a Bible study with one of them in my younger days and it was my desire to find out if the things they were saying about other religions were true that actually led me to become Christian.
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Me as well; my involvement with the JWs led me to be a better Catholic.
 
MartinJordan said:
They are banned (yes, banned), in my country. Clearly they are bad news especially for disseminating Watchtower publications and comics … breaking the peace thus the LAW of the land.

Not only that but because they refuse to sing the National Anthem and salute the country Flag and go awol on performing compulsory military duty as they don’t believe in being conscripted to military service.

Regarding military service, Jesus was not against it so…

Good riddance I say 😉

MJ
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Would you mind telling us which country you are talking about?
 
elizaveta01 said:
The few JW’s that I’ve know personally were very nice, dedicated, and sincere people. It’s unfortunate that they put their loyalty, time, and belief into the JW religion, which is wacky beyond belief.

I actually did a Bible study with one of them in my younger days and it was my desire to find out if the things they were saying about other religions were true that actually led me to become Christian.

I have heard the horror stories about what happens to family and friends that choose to leave and it’s very sad. Of course they aren’t the only religion to practice shunning, although they are probably the most well documented.
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I also had a similar impression of JW’s until I had a lot more to do with them ( purely from an observational stand point ) and I realised that their doctrine has an immense appeal to the Ego there is non of the traditional Catholic teaching of humility and service to others here. My original impression of sincere dedicated people who were misguided soon changed when I observed that the thing that kept most JW’s going was this continual Ego stroking as being one of the chosen few intelligent enough to discern the organisation with the “Truth” in these last days. They are “Special”, they are “above” others, they have been smart enough not to be deceived by the Devil like all the other “Rubes” out there in the world.
This is the same appeal that totalitarian regimes use to get people on board. Instead of trying to improve character through humility and service with respect to all people which is a major teaching found in the gospels, the JW is recruited via this Ego driven character flaw and then is taught how to exploit this flaw in others.
Once one scratches below the surface with this “Sect” it soon becomes obvious why they can easily shun family members, let people die when a simple blood transfusion could save their life and why they do not preform any of the acts of charity and service to the poor and needy which Christ stressed so often in his teaching.
In St Pauls letter to the Colossians Chapter 2 verse 18 he warns the faithful not to be seduced by those who come to them in all humility, teaching a religion of Angels, talking of things they have never seen, Vain and puffed up by the sense of their own self worth.
In verse 19 he points out that the error of the people he is talking about in verse 18 is that they do not have a correct understanding of Christ.
These two verses could have been written about the JW’s,a sect started by a man the courts described as a charlatan during one of his many fraud battles, They come to your door in all humility wanting to teach you about the salvation found in the Bible. In stead they teach you that Christ is a created Angel and that only those who are discerning enough to recognise the so called “Truth” of their fanciful doctrine are acceptable to God.
Be very cautious when it comes to these particular Wolves in Sheep’s clothing.
 
Sam_777 said:
What is your take on “Jehovah’s Witnesses” sect other than not considering JESUS as GOD?

Because I personally admire their ethics compared to some other Christian sects:
  • Homosexual activity/same-sex marriages are forbidden.
  • Abortion is considered a murder.
  • Modesty in dress and grooming is frequently emphasized.
  • Gambling, drunkenness, illegal drugs, and tobacco use are forbidden.
  • Drinking of alcoholic beverages is permitted in moderation.
My only take on them that they emphasis on the name of GOD to be “Jehovah”, which I believe it should not, because GOD is universal, every nation could call Him by their native language!
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Had an ex-roommate who still is a JW. Most JW’s I have encountered,sorry to say,not the most educated bunch.
 
Our beloved intercessor HH Pope Shenouda III wrote several articles against this sect (and the Seventh Day Adventist sect, which shares some of their errors) in the Coptic Orthodox Church magazine El Keraza. Those articles were later gathered together and published into a little book in 1993 called “The Heresy of the Jehovah’s Witnesses”. I have not read it, because unfortunately HH’s writings have been very poorly translated into English such that they are actually not as helpful as they could be, but I do know that we are against this group because the embrace many false doctrines and ancient heresies in a new package. As with any belief system, individual members may be the nicest, most honest and moral people around, but that does not make their belief system any more or less true. For comparison we have the teachings of Jesus Christ the Son of God, His apostles and disciples, the Holy Fathers and monks, and many more down to this very day who do not support the distinctive JW doctrines. The Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Christ is truly divine, but instead they teach that He is created (which directly contradicts our Fathers, and the Nicene Creed accepted by all Christians). They also teach against the resurrection of Jesus, saying that He arose in spirit only! How can this be, when after His resurrection He appears to His disciples and tells the one who doubted, Thomas, to place his fingers into His side to feel His wounds? There are many more problems than these, but these should be enough for anyone to think twice before engaging with this group.

They are not Christians. Even if you admire their attitudes regarding certain things, their doctrines are poison to the soul. Avoid them.
 
Mikeydell said:
To the ‘OP’ - I did some minor research (Google) and found this site you should also visit to learn a bit more about the JW religion: bible.ca/jw-questions.htm
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It was nice to know about the 1925/1975 prophesies, the 144,000 anointed people, and the torture stake.

But what is that “Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel”, is that true allegation?:eek:, that alone is a huge blasphemy if true!
 
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