What is your take on "Jehovah's Witnesses" sect?

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Thanks be to God, that the Lord has been patient enough with my stubborn blindness to show me the truth about Him and his Church.

Thanks, Waynec, and others for your kind comments. If it were not for Mother Church and her patience I would not have gained this that I share.

And for those wondering, when Logically directed that text from Scripture at me, “do not cast your pearls before swine,” I am sure he did it in ignorance. Many are unaware of the connection the misuse of this text has had in history, especially in connection with the Spanish Inquisition and my direct ancestral line. Many in my family tree were tortured and killed in connection with the misuse of this text of Christ.

To use that text the way Logically did to a Sephardic Jew like myself (a Jew from Spain) is pretty much equivalent to painting a swastika on my door. My family members were driven from Spain in 1492 by the Spanish Inquisition even though many of us had been Catholics since the origins of Christianity. Just recently Spain put into law the “right of return” for people like me because of this injustice, and the Church itself has made great strides to right the wrongs of that era.

While I attribute Logically’s use of this text to mostly ignorance, it does not make it any less an evil of this world or any less inexcusable. I also do not think that his actions are reflective of Jehovah’s Witnesses in general.
 
Ok. Something strange is going on here. Now I am getting in trouble for apologizing.
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I had better leave you all to discuss Jehovah’s Witnesses without me.

It was nice talking to you all, but i had better not comment on this thread any further.

All the best people.

Logically. 🙂
 
Logically said:
Ok. Something strange is going on here. Now I am getting in trouble for apologizing.
:confused:

I had better leave you all to discuss Jehovah’s Witnesses without me.

It was nice talking to you all, but i had better not comment on this thread any further.

All the best people.

Logically. 🙂
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I don’t know who you’re in trouble with. It’s not me. I forgive you. Thanks for apologizing.

Now who says you are in trouble, because if I forgive you then I don’t see what the problem is.
 
DelsonJacobs said:
I don’t want people reading this to get the wrong idea.

I can’t believe that I, a Catholic, have to do this, but I am going to defend the Jehovah’s Witnesses due to something Logically has written here.

The official teaching of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses regarding "man and wife’ becoming “one flesh” is NOT what Logically states.

Jehovah’s Witnesses, like Catholics, believe that the union of man and wife into “one flesh” is a physical reality as well as a spiritual and figurative one.

I also don’t want people or other JWs reading this to conclude that Logically is currently offering a good example of his religion. While many I know have, like anyone else, transgressed from time to time, most are obedient to instruction from the Governing Body.

Most would never argue or participate in a forum like Logically has. As I’ve pointed out before from their own source, regardless if a so-called “apostate” is present or not, Witnesses do not believe in joining, let alone participating in non-approved websites like Catholic forums. They believe in the sanctity of marriage and the “one flesh” union wholeheartedly. Some are even able to stick to the point in a discussion and not hop around as he has.

Catholics accept good and truth where ever it may be found. We also acknowledge that people will stick by their convictions, regardless if they agree with what we do. That’s only normal. A religion with high regard for Scripture is true blessing, even if it is not in full communion with the Church.

Why Logically may not have been currently giving the best of examples of a Jehovah’s Witness in this circumstance, nobody is perfect. I also know he is not prepared for much we are saying because he doesn’t have an honest exposure to what Catholics believe and the extent of our religious education. He believes only what he is told to believe about us. He does not know these things from walking among us, living among us, seeing and feeling our world.

Logically is also not evil nor condemned. Mistaken, yes, but one of our separated brethren nonetheless. I am also sure he is not always giving a bad example too.

Logically, instead of offering us more Scriptures and arguments, why not go back and read the Greek textual information I have supplied. Read that, check it not with books but by finding actual Biblical scholars. You can email any one of them or call them on the phone or visit the closest university to you. Make sure you get the (name removed by moderator)ut of several and see whether or not what I’ve written is true compared to what you believe.

Get your nose out of Watchtower books and visit the Promised Land. Walk by the Jordan, live and eat with the people, visit the Western Wall, touch it.

Instead of preaching at Catholics, come and visit with them during Mass, or stop by your nearest Catholic charity center and offer your strength to feed the hungry, comfort the sick, dress the poor. Get your hands dirty like we do in the ministry.

But don’t preach things your religion doesn’t teach. Don’t get into discussions with people unless you are willing to respond to each and every point.

And don’t call people “swine,” especially Jews of Sephardic ancestry. If you don’t know how anti-semitic that is and how much reproach you have brought upon the Witnesses by using that term against a Hebrew from Spain, you need to look up the term “Marranos.” It was more than offensive to do that, it was evil. Please don’t do that again. I am sure you did it without knowledge.
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I absolutely believe, with all of my being, that there are very good people who are a part of the JW’s. I believe that most of your rank and file JW’s have no idea of the mental gymnastics one has to perform to come to some of their conclusions, probably because they’ve never really thought about it. It just is, and always was, so it must be right.

When I was a kid, anytime I got a sno-ball, I always got a Spearamint one. I loved them, and I always got one, so therefore, they were always the best. I didn’t know any better. It wasn’t that other sno-balls were bad, I had only ever eaten Spearamint. Once I tried something new, though. My eyes were opened. I think JW’s are a lot like that. They only really know one thing, and that’s the Watchtower. It’s unfortunate the WT doesn’t allow people to do their own research. To her credit, the Catholic Church wants people to do their own research. Read the history, find out for yourself. We don’t have anything to hide.

Logically has come here and has bounced around questions and won’t respond to simple requests. I don’t view him in the same light as I would someone who came to my door. I think he’s probably more the exception than the rule.
 
Delson,

Thank you so much for your contribution. You are a class act and we are blessed to have you.

God Bless you,
 
The honor is mine, everybody. Thank you. Your appreciation means the world to me.

God bless you all.

Delson 🙂
 
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