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Matthew 12:30: Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
You are free to change your mind.Matthew 12:30: Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
I think he is talking about people who don’t follow the path of Jesus - loving their fellow man and feeding the poor, visiting the sick, etc., rather than if someone is “Christian” in name only.Matthew 12:30: Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
How is this unmerciful? In the context of what was said Jesus was accused of casting out demons by Be-elzebul. Jesus said that a house divided against itself will not stand. Thus, how could he cast out Satan by Satan? But, if it is by the Spirit of God that he casts out demons then the kingdom of God has come upon them. In this context Jesus is saying that a house divided against itself does not stand and thus one has to choose to be either be a part of God’s Kingdom or not. There is no middle ground in the war between light and dark. You can’t be working for both sides. Jesus sees himself in a battle between good and evil, upon which everyone is affected and will have to choose sides. Either you are on his side, the light, or you are in the darkness.Matthew 12:30: Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
Yes, this is what I would say as well.I think he is talking about people who don’t follow the path of Jesus - loving their fellow man and feeding the poor, visiting the sick, etc., rather than if someone is “Christian” in name only.
How is this unmerciful? In the context of what was said Jesus was accused of casting out demons by Be-elzebul. Jesus said that a house divided against itself will not stand. Thus, how could he cast out Satan by Satan? But, if it is by the Spirit of God that he casts out demons then the kingdom of God has come upon them. In this context Jesus is saying that a house divided against itself does not stand and thus one has to choose to be either be a part of God’s Kingdom or not. There is no middle ground in the war between light and dark. You can’t be working for both sides. Jesus sees himself in a battle between good and evil, upon which everyone is affected and will have to choose sides. Either you are on his side, the light, or you are in the darkness.
Yes, good point. God is the Father of the prodigal son… Always willing and waiting for the son to return to him. He allows the son the freedom to squander his inheritance. Yet, he accepts the son back after he returned. How is that not merciful? It was a lot more merciful than the other son was.
A small additional note. God does have mercy on those who oppose Him. That is why he constantly works to call them back to himself. The thing is, mercy can only be given to those who are willing to accept it. If the unrepentant sinner refuses to accept God’s mercy then that’s their choice, not God’s.
How I could be free to choose if I haven’t ever heard this verse? Moreover, one do not expect such a approach from a God who is love.You are free to change your mind.
What if a person does everything you expect from a Christian and be a non-believer?I think he is talking about people who don’t follow the path of Jesus - loving their fellow man and feeding the poor, visiting the sick, etc., rather than if someone is “Christian” in name only.
Is there any room for those who are not in light and dark side?How is this unmerciful? In the context of what was said Jesus was accused of casting out demons by Be-elzebul. Jesus said that a house divided against itself will not stand. Thus, how could he cast out Satan by Satan? But, if it is by the Spirit of God that he casts out demons then the kingdom of God has come upon them. In this context Jesus is saying that a house divided against itself does not stand and thus one has to choose to be either be a part of God’s Kingdom or not. There is no middle ground in the war between light and dark. You can’t be working for both sides. Jesus sees himself in a battle between good and evil, upon which everyone is affected and will have to choose sides. Either you are on his side, the light, or you are in the darkness.
This is not what I understand from the verse. God has no mercy on those who don’t choose him rather than opposing him.
A small additional note. God does have mercy on those who oppose Him. That is why he constantly works to call them back to himself. The thing is, mercy can only be given to those who are willing to accept it. If the unrepentant sinner refuses to accept God’s mercy then that’s their choice, not God’s.
Why do you think it is all dependent on one verse?This is not what I understand from the verse. God has no mercy on those who don’t choose him rather than opposing him.
How could a nonbeliever expect God’s mercy? Why would anyone expect mercy from nothingness and no one? This seems extremely irrational to me.Now if this person isn’t sure, hopes there is a God, then perhaps they could hope for his mercy. But if you simply don’t believe in anything at all, what sort of mercy are you expecting from nothing at all?What if a person does everything you expect from a Christian and be a non-believer?
For clarity, I don’t want people concluding hope is pointless because of the above.Another thing to consider too is that a Christian needs to be very careful considering the ‘to whom much is given’ line.
I wish I would have brought the Magnificat (sp?) companion for the year of Mercy in with me. but the last paragraph for today’s thoughts focused on the sins surrounding the concept of hope.
The second one being an expectation of Mercy.
Need to be careful not to assume Mercy upon ourselves.
Take care,
Mike
I asked whether God has mercy to non-believer rather than a non-believer expecting mercy.How could a nonbeliever expect God’s mercy? Why would anyone expect mercy from nothingness and no one? This seems extremely irrational to me.Now if this person isn’t sure, hopes there is a God, then perhaps they could hope for his mercy. But if you simply don’t believe in anything at all, what sort of mercy are you expecting from nothing at all?
However, in answer to you question - YES God will show them mercy. Because God IS.
So we have two conflicting positions now.Jonah was angry that God was merciful to Nineveh, even though they were not part of God’s people.
-Tim-
When do you think God exercises His mercy? Are there an conditions?I asked whether God has mercy to non-believer rather than a non-believer expecting mercy.
Mercy is not a free gift. We have to be sincerely sorry for our sins to merit mercy. If one does not believe there is a God, one cannot be sorry and beg forgiveness.I asked whether God has mercy to non-believer rather than a non-believer expecting mercy.