Write in candidate "Pro Life"

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Does a write in candidate have to be a real person? Does anyone know?

If neither political party is pro life, wouldn’t it make sense to start a movement that the write in would be “Pro Life” not the name of a person, just Pro Life?

The name "Pro Life would be it easy to remember for the voters and the candidates would sure be made aware of the number of votes they missed out on.

There has to be a better way to have our voice heard.
 
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dmelosi:
Does a write in candidate have to be a real person? Does anyone know?

If neither political party is pro life, wouldn’t it make sense to start a movement that the write in would be “Pro Life” not the name of a person, just Pro Life?

The name "Pro Life would be it easy to remember for the voters and the candidates would sure be made aware of the number of votes they missed out on.

There has to be a better way to have our voice heard.
The vote will not count, but it might send a good message to pro-abort candidates if the votes are tallied ( I am not sure they will be).

I very often do not even have a pro-life candidate to vote for so this might be a good idea for me.
 
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dmelosi:
Does a write in candidate have to be a real person? Does anyone know?

If neither political party is pro life, wouldn’t it make sense to start a movement that the write in would be “Pro Life” not the name of a person, just Pro Life?

The name "Pro Life would be it easy to remember for the voters and the candidates would sure be made aware of the number of votes they missed out on.

There has to be a better way to have our voice heard.
I’ve voted for Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for Governor and Lieutenant Governor before. 🙂
 
Semper Fi:
I’ve voted for Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for Governor and Lieutenant Governor before. 🙂
Just think if everyone who is pro life voted Pro Life as the candidate…when the results were done, either party could see what they were missing.
 
how do they know there isnt some crazy person who changed their name to Pro Life? they should tally and report the votes just in case.
 
A write-in vote is a wasted vote. The Supreme Court has ruled states do not need to provide for write-in votes or count them.

Time for the parable of the skydiver. Two men jumped from 12,000 feet, one of them without a parachute. As they fell free of the plane, he shouted to his companion, “Tell me what I should do now!”

And his companion said, “I really can’t tell you what you should do now. But if you’d asked me five seconds earlier, I could have told you what you should **not **do.”

If we don’t have pro-life candidates, it’s because we did nothing to get pro-life candidates. There is no Candidate Fairy who will leave the ideal candidate under our pillow – we have to work to get good candidates.

Here’s what we have to do:
  1. Join a party – either one, makes no difference (although the Republicans are more friendly to pro-life).
  2. Work in the local committee. You’ll soon find yourself offered some position of responsibility.
  3. Find and support a pro-life man or woman. It doesn’t have to be at the Senate or Congressional level – it could be someone who wants to run for Clerk of Court or Board of Supervisors or Alderman.
  4. Form alliances with like-minded people and organizations, from your local Right-to-Life committee to the NRA.
  5. Raise money for your candidate.
  6. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t change things over night – we didn’t get into this fix over night, and we won’t get out over night.
  7. Work, work, work!
PS – Did I mention that you have to work?
 
vern humphrey:
  1. Work, work, work!
PS – Did I mention that you have to work?
Yes, and pray. As St. Ignatius of Loyola said, “Pray as if everything depends on God, work as if everything depends on you.” And if you can’t get as involved as Vern suggests, then do what you can where you are.

To my mind it is a wasted vote to write in votes or vote for those who have no chance to win. Neither party gets a message from that. They only listen to their own members, especially who will not vote for any pro-death candidates they put forward if they are the largest faction. Besides, if we vote for people who haven’t a chance of winning, we may have soothed our consciences but we’ve give the election to the pro-death candidate by not voting for the pro-life candidate closest to our own convictions.
 
vern humphrey:
A write-in vote is a wasted vote. The Supreme Court has ruled states do not need to provide for write-in votes or count them.

Time for the parable of the skydiver. Two men jumped from 12,000 feet, one of them without a parachute. As they fell free of the plane, he shouted to his companion, “Tell me what I should do now!”

And his companion said, “I really can’t tell you what you should do now. But if you’d asked me five seconds earlier, I could have told you what you should **not **do.”

If we don’t have pro-life candidates, it’s because we did nothing to get pro-life candidates. There is no Candidate Fairy who will leave the ideal candidate under our pillow – we have to work to get good candidates.

Here’s what we have to do:
  1. Join a party – either one, makes no difference (although the Republicans are more friendly to pro-life).
  2. Work in the local committee. You’ll soon find yourself offered some position of responsibility.
  3. Find and support a pro-life man or woman. It doesn’t have to be at the Senate or Congressional level – it could be someone who wants to run for Clerk of Court or Board of Supervisors or Alderman.
  4. Form alliances with like-minded people and organizations, from your local Right-to-Life committee to the NRA.
  5. Raise money for your candidate.
  6. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t change things over night – we didn’t get into this fix over night, and we won’t get out over night.
  7. Work, work, work!
PS – Did I mention that you have to work?
Vern,
If you have 10,000 people who would read what you say, maybe 1 tenth of 1 percent will become active in the process that way, maybe. Then some of those that do will become watered down in their thinking and compromise. That is what is happening time and time again now, politicians who used to be pro life have sacrificed their intergrity for the sake of power.

The approach you suggest which many do is not much effect on the end result as far as making an impact. Perhaps long term, but I see a problem with the constant erosion of a strong pro life stance among all politicians.

I did not know the law about not having to legally count write in votes.

BUT, in addition to what you suggest…(I am active and vocal now), how can the people who agree with our stance make a difference?

The anti life movement organizes very well to have their voice heard.

The pro life movement simply needs a way for the people who are not going to be active, still have a way for their voice to be heard.

What you say above makes sense, but I am afraid we are losing ground, look at all of the pro choice republican candidates.
 
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Della:
Yes, and pray. As St. Ignatius of Loyola said, “Pray as if everything depends on God, work as if everything depends on you.” And if you can’t get as involved as Vern suggests, then do what you can where you are.

To my mind it is a wasted vote to write in votes or vote for those who have no chance to win. Neither party gets a message from that. They only listen to their own members, especially who will not vote for any pro-death candidates they put forward if they are the largest faction. Besides, if we vote for people who haven’t a chance of winning, we may have soothed our consciences but we’ve give the election to the pro-death candidate by not voting for the pro-life candidate closest to our own convictions.
I did not know that the write in votes would not be counted as Vern stated. But simple math would tell a candidate the votes they are missing out on. And I am talking about when both candidates are pro CHOICE.
 
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dmelosi:
Does a write in candidate have to be a real person? Does anyone know?

If neither political party is pro life, wouldn’t it make sense to start a movement that the write in would be “Pro Life” not the name of a person, just Pro Life?

The name "Pro Life would be it easy to remember for the voters and the candidates would sure be made aware of the number of votes they missed out on.

There has to be a better way to have our voice heard.
In Illinois, when the polls close, the election judges (I am one) count ONLY those write-in votes that are for declared write-in candidates. A list of declared write-in candidates and the offices for which they have declared their intent to seek election is included with the polling place supplies provided by the County Clerk’s office.

Write-in votes for non-candidates, such as Mickey Mouse or generic statements such as “pro-life”, or write-in votes for declared candidates, but not for the office for which those candidates have declared their intention to seek office, are not counted. They are treated as an incomplete ballot and send no message to anyone, except possibly the election judges at that polling place.

Other states may do things differently.
 
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dmelosi:
Vern,
If you have 10,000 people who would read what you say, maybe 1 tenth of 1 percent will become active in the process that way, maybe. Then some of those that do will become watered down in their thinking and compromise. That is what is happening time and time again now, politicians who used to be pro life have sacrificed their intergrity for the sake of power.
I formed the Republican Committee in my present county. We went from zero members to over a hundred. We have raised several thousand dollars for candidates, and regularly hold fish frys and barbecues to support candidates.

It only takes a handfull of determined people who are willing to work.

As my dad used to say, “Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t – you’re probably right.”
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dmelosi:
The approach you suggest which many do is not much effect on the end result as far as making an impact. Perhaps long term, but I see a problem with the constant erosion of a strong pro life stance among all politicians.
The slide in American values started before I was born – and that was a loooong time ago. It isn’t reasonable to expect to reverse it overnight.

That’s why we have to work. If we fail, what better chance will the next generation have?

I did not know the law about not having to legally count write in votes.
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dmelosi:
BUT, in addition to what you suggest…(I am active and vocal now), how can the people who agree with our stance make a difference?
First, find like-minded people – you’ll find them in unlikely places, from the Church to the local gun club. Look for people with a generally conservative outlook.

Then get them to do something – holding fish frys and barbecues works well around here, because it’s a community activity. My chuch is a tiny missionary church – but we hold fish frys for Lent, and get a lot of Protestants to come. We forge bonds with them. We are now moving to hold fish frys and barbecues for the local Right to Life committee – which will use the money for cable TV and newspaper ads. We will challenge other churches to join in.
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dmelosi:
The anti life movement organizes very well to have their voice heard.
Which means we have to work all the harder.

But look at what you just wrote – it will be hard for you because they are organized and we are not! If we had been organized and working thirty years ago, the problem would have been solved by now.

But the older generation didn’t do its share. They sat on their hands and said, “what can we do?” We now pay the price of their inactivity.
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dmelosi:
The pro life movement simply needs a way for the people who are not going to be active, still have a way for their voice to be heard.
Find little things for them to do. Ask someone to contribute napkins, or serve as cashier at a fish fry. Take baby steps, and soon these people will be intergrated into an effective organization and willing to take on more.
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dmelosi:
What you say above makes sense, but I am afraid we are losing ground, look at all of the pro choice republican candidates.
That’s because we didn’t act in time.

We can’t reverse the clock - -but we can start now and have an impact in the future.
 
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dmelosi:
I did not know that the write in votes would not be counted as Vern stated. But simple math would tell a candidate the votes they are missing out on. And I am talking about when both candidates are pro CHOICE.
No. Simple math tells the politicians that the people who wrote in names have removed themselves from the political process. They can neither help nor hurt a candidate. It’s as if they didn’t exist, and politicians call it “self-emasculation.”

Now when you vote for the other guy, politicians sit up and take notice.
 
Semper Fi:
I’ve voted for Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for Governor and Lieutenant Governor before. 🙂
I have a button from 1992 that says “Homer Simpson for President”. Strangely, he’s the only candidate I’ve really ever liked.
 
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Benedictus:
I have a button from 1992 that says “Homer Simpson for President”. Strangely, he’s the only candidate I’ve really ever liked.
How do you feel about the candidate you got?

Consider his support for gays, his Surgeon General who said children should be taught to masturbate, and the Catholic Church should “get over” its opposition to abortion, and so on.

This illustrates my point – withdraw from the political arena, and you help the worst candidates win.
 
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dmelosi:
I did not know that the write in votes would not be counted as Vern stated. But simple math would tell a candidate the votes they are missing out on. And I am talking about when both candidates are pro CHOICE.
Then, according to what the Vatican told us during the last big elections, you can vote for the candidate that is the least pro-choice. For example, do both candidate believe in abortion on demand or does one of them believe in limiting abortions, such as being against partial birth abortions? Then vote for that one. It does send a message to the parties if we vote for candidates who don’t support the whole pro-choice platform. It really does.
 
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Della:
Then, according to what the Vatican told us during the last big elections, you can vote for the candidate that is the least pro-choice. For example, do both candidate believe in abortion on demand or does one of them believe in limiting abortions, such as being against partial birth abortions? Then vote for that one. It does send a message to the parties if we vote for candidates who don’t support the whole pro-choice platform. It really does.
That is correct – politics is often about voting for the lesser of two evils, and the Church recognizes that who will not vote for the lesser of two evils is automatically supporting the greater of two evils.

But when we don’t have pro-choice candidates running, we have only ourselves to blame. It is our failure to work to get such candidates that has led to this pass.
 
vern humphrey:
How do you feel about the candidate you got?
How can you turn a light-hearted comment about a cartoon character running for President into a personal attack?
 
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Benedictus:
How can you turn a light-hearted comment about a cartoon character running for President into a personal attack?
If you interpreted that as a personal attack, you have my deepest apologies.

My point is, politics is serious business. We get things like partial-birth abortion by electing the wrong politicians.
 
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dmelosi:
Does a write in candidate have to be a real person?
Unless you want your vote to be totally meaningless, it does. Even still, I think it is best to vote for someone who has their name on the ballot already. Most of the time, actual votes are not counted, and the ballots are read by computer. Unless “Other” could win the election (which is very rare), they don’t even look at the things people write in.
 
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Brain:
how do they know there isnt some crazy person who changed their name to Pro Life? they should tally and report the votes just in case.
In Illinois, we have a grand old tradition of people using slogans as part of their name. Joe “No New Taxes” Smith. With more recent changes nicknames have to be more limited to something by which the person is commonly known. So this year I had the opportunity to vote for a “Bogie” and “Johnny Hap”, if I wanted. But, alas, no Vi “America” Daley.

It is not unthinkable, then, that in some jurisdictions someone could use “Pro-Life” as their middle ballot name.

Concerning write in candidates, I would think that since the qualifications for election require an actual person to be the candidate that they wouldn’t exactly count. But beware that they might not even be tallied. In Illinois, for example, in order for a write-in vote to be counted the candidate must officially register as a write-in candidate. Otherwise, no one will even know about it and the message will be lost.
 
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