‘A Bonhoeffer moment’: Evangelical leaders vow civil disobedience if Supreme Court redefines marriage

[Pat_M]

‘A Bonhoeffer moment’: Evangelical leaders vow civil disobedience if Supreme Court redefines marriage

“We believe that the majority of the Court will rule in favor of elevating what we have always taught to be a sinful lifestyle to the stature of a civil right — forcing us to choose between their ruling and our religious convictions that are based on Scripture,” said Rick Scarborough, a former Southern Baptist minister who now heads Vision America Action. “Christians are being declared the lawbreakers when we are simply living by what we have always believed and by a set of laws that the culture historically has agreed to.”

He envisioned the Obama administration acting by executive order and federal fiat to promote the LGBT agenda.

“With the current administration there is every reason to believe that the executive branch will use the full weight of the federal justice system to enforce this,” Scarborough said in a conference call attended by some 30 national ministry leaders, as reported by James Robison, a noted evangelist and founder of TheStream.org.

“This is a Bonhoeffer moment,” Scarborough said, according to Robison. “What will we do and how will we respond?”

lifesitenews.com/news/a-bonhoeffer-moment-evangelical-leaders-vow-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-c

 

[JimG]

Mr. Scarborough’s remarks in their entirety can be found here:

wnd.com/2015/03/the-real-march-toward-madness/

An excerpt:

" I cannot in good conscience, honor any ruling that seeks to undermine the integrity of the Scripture upon which I have based my whole life, and the clear meaning of the Constitution of the United States, which provides all of us with an assurance that our rights are protected, including the right to exercise our deeply held religious beliefs."

 

[mikekle]

I will believe it when I see it.

I just cant see religious people in our times engaging in any type of civil disobedience, most are too concerned about their own quality of life, too worried about loss of income, etc versus their beliefs, its almost like they are religious on sundays, but if it any time it infringes on the rest of their lives, they are simply not willing to do anything more, sad that we have reached such a level imo.

 

[JimG]

I will believe it when I see it.

I just cant see religious people in our times engaging in any type of civil disobedience, most are too concerned about their own quality of life, too worried about loss of income, etc versus their beliefs, its almost like they are religious on sundays, but if it any time it infringes on the rest of their lives, they are simply not willing to do anything more, sad that we have reached such a level imo.

You may be right. Mostly, Christians have surrendered to every aspect of the sexual revolution, often without a fight, sometimes happily. It’s quite possible that they will quietly lay down their arms and surrender to same sex marriage as well.

 

[mikekle]

You may be right. Mostly, Christians have surrendered to every aspect of the sexual revolution, often without a fight, sometimes happily. It’s quite possible that they will quietly lay down their arms and surrender to same sex marriage as well.

I dont know whether these people are lazy or if they just dont care that much, its like they care to a certain point, but wont go much further, especially if its risking their quality of life, Example, you talk to other catholics about these kinds of things and most just shake their head, and say well, what can we do about it, well duh, we are in america, this country was founded by a whole lot of people who at one time or another said ‘we are going to break some laws, in order to get to something better’, yet today, people have no problem celebrating July 4th and all that represents, but if it came to them actually doing something…well, I will leave it up to someone else, I cant risk getting arrested, loosing my job, etc…what would our country be today if all our historical patriots thought like these people? LOL

Plus, they fail to recognize if enough catholics/ christians, actually did stand up and decide to fight for their beliefs, after a certain point, police or other law enforcement would not be able to do anything, eventually, if enough people stood fast and remained true to their faith, Im sure, with God, we would win in the end, no matter what the challenge, whether it be abortion, the church and LGBT rights that will likely become law, etc.

Im also pretty sure God would consider this type of ‘battle’ to be just as well, so probably no debate about that, he would definitely be on our side thru this, he would ensure law enforcement, lawmkers, etc. would all be defeated.

 

[WilliamOK]

"14… St. Thomas maintains: “Each one is under obligation to show forth his faith, either to instruct and encourage others of the faithful, or to repel the attacks of unbelievers.” To recoil before an enemy, or to keep silence when from all sides such clamors are raised against truth, is the part of a man either devoid of character or who entertains doubt as to the truth of what he professes to believe. In both cases such mode of behaving is base and is insulting to God, and both are incompatible with the salvation of mankind. This kind of conduct is profitable only to the enemies of the faith, for nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good."

w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_10011890_sapientiae-christianae.html

 

[Bradski]

“This is a Bonhoeffer moment,” Scarborough said, according to Robison. “What will we do and how will we respond?”

Maybe you can all have a practice run on the evils of contraception. And follow it up with sex outside marriage and then maybe divorce. How about the evils of drinks and perhaps the common use of hard drugs?

You can see how that goes and you’d have a better idea on how some disobedience would go re homosexuality. Although I could save you some time and tell you right now.

 

[Selah_KY]

Maybe you can all have a practice run on the evils of contraception. And follow it up with sex outside marriage and then maybe divorce. How about the evils of drinks and perhaps the common use of hard drugs?

You can see how that goes and you’d have a better idea on how some disobedience would go re homosexuality. Although I could save you some time and tell you right now.

To suggest that we should respond to the legalization of same-sex marriage the same way we would respond to the Holocaust actually makes me throw up a little… there is NO comparison between the two.

Personally, I would rather see the Church get out of the business of “civil” marriages and stick with the Sacramental side of things. I think a lot about what would be happening now if the Church never would have gotten tangled up with the State on this issue in the first place. Of course, I also wonder if we would be in the situation today if the Protestant churches hadn’t taken away the sacramental importance of marriage.