“Embryos are Humans” Says U.S. Government Report on Stem Cell Research

[buffalo]

Simply amazing - I wonder how much money was spent to find this out? Send this to Pelosi and crew.

“Embryos are Humans” Says U.S. Government Report on Stem Cell Research

Only differences from other human beings are accidental differences in levels of development
By John Jalsevac

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A new report by the United States governments’ Domestic Policy Council admits that embryos are human beings; the only differences between embryos and other human beings, says the report, are accidental differences in levels of development.

“Embryos are humans in their earliest developmental stage,” writes the Council.

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[mary_bobo]

Simply amazing - I wonder how much money was spent to find this out? Send this to Pelosi and crew.

“Embryos are Humans” Says U.S. Government Report on Stem Cell Research

Only differences from other human beings are accidental differences in levels of development
By John Jalsevac

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A new report by the United States governments’ Domestic Policy Council admits that embryos are human beings; the only differences between embryos and other human beings, says the report, are accidental differences in levels of development.

“Embryos are humans in their earliest developmental stage,” writes the Council.

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Do you think the Speaker care one whit? Those that support this atrocity are hell bent on doing this and playing to the populace that maintain this is necessary.

 

[astegallrnc]

Simply amazing - I wonder how much money was spent to find this out?

We probably don’t want to know. Missorians need to get this info circulating here in MO before 2008 when we vote on cloning… again.

 

[BlazingBolt]

At what point in a preganancy is the developmental stage of “embryo” achieved?

 

[Rosalinda]

Blazing Bolt asks:
[sign]At what point in a preganancy is the developmental stage of “embryo” achieved?[/sign]

"Zygote: This cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm. A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo). The expression *fertilized ovum *refers to a secondary oocyte that is impregnated by a sperm; when fertilization is complete, the oocyte becomes a zygote."10

• a human being is the immediate product of fertilization*. As such he/she is a single-cell embryonic zygote, an organism with 46 chromosomes, the number required of a member of the human species. This human being immediately produces specifically human proteins and enzymes, directs his/her own further growth and development as human, and is a new, genetically unique, newly existing, live human individual.

**After fertilization the single-cell human embryo doesn’t become another *kind ***of thing. It simply divides and grows bigger and bigger, developing through several stages as an embryo over an 8-week period. Several of these developmental stages of the growing embryo are given special names, e.g., a morula (about 4 days), a blastocyst (5-7 days), a bilaminar (two layer) embryo (during the second week), and a trilaminar (3-layer) embryo (during the third week)

lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_01lifebegin1.html#b10

The embryonic period ends at the end of the eighth week when the fetal period begins; whereas the fetal period ends at birth.

 

[ribozyme]

Simply amazing - I wonder how much money was spent to find this out? Send this to Pelosi and crew.

“Embryos are Humans” Says U.S. Government Report on Stem Cell Research

Only differences from other human beings are accidental differences in levels of development
By John Jalsevac

WASHINGTON, D.C., January 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A new report by the United States governments’ Domestic Policy Council admits that embryos are human beings; the only differences between embryos and other human beings, says the report, are accidental differences in levels of development.

“Embryos are humans in their earliest developmental stage,” writes the Council.

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That is something that even Peter Singer acknowledges. To him, the question is the inherent moral worth of the embryos.

 

[buffalo]

That is something that even Peter Singer acknowledges. To him, the question is the inherent moral worth of the embryos.

It seems we could apply this thinking to you or I. Full potential is present at embryo stage. Should we have Singer’s own potential to fully develop or snuffed it our before he got a chance.

 

[vern_humphrey]

That is something that even Peter Singer acknowledges. To him, the question is the inherent moral worth of the embryos.

The question is more about the moral worth of Peter Singer than about the embryo.

 

[ribozyme]

It seems we could apply this thinking to you or I. Full potential is present at embryo stage. Should we have Singer’s own potential to fully develop or snuffed it our before he got a chance.

Well, he would argue that no moral wrong would occur because he was not harmed in any way as no pain was inflicted if Peter Singer was aborted in this way.

 

[Rosalinda]

It is completely irrelevant Ribozyme whether or not someone experiences pain when they are killed. Painless death or not, the act is inherently a grave moral evil. Yes, I use the word, ‘evil’ intentionally. While it is ‘wrong’ to cross the street on a red light it is evil to deprive innocent persons of their life. The guilty are even more responsible when they justify killing for reasons of pride and arrogance knowing full well these are human beings yet deny their inherent moral value.

What…so many others, have forgotten is that at any point in time, in the existence of a life, there exists a whole, integrated human life. This is true at fertilization, before birth, and after birth, until death. This is what is called the *continuum *of life. **Within this continuum, over time, the fundamental characteristics of life change: size, form, content, function and appearance. **We can reduce any point in time to a trivial value by comparing that point to any other reference point one might choose. But, assigning relative values at any time points is simply arbitrary and not scientifically grounded

The final argument against the biological continuum of human life is clearly stated by John Gearhart, stem cell pioneer from Johns Hopkins, as follows: “The future therapeutic benefit of the human pluripotent stem cell (hPSC), however, must be balanced against a necessary respect for the moral relevance of the human embryo and fetus”.10 I would ask Gearhart: *Whose moral relevance are we talking about? *
I still hear clearly, but swiftly fading in the distance, the words expressed from Nuremberg: “Never again”!

From “Cloning, Stem Cell Research and Some Historic Parallels” by C. Ward Kischer Ph.D. is an emeritus professor of Cell Biology and Anatomy, specialty in Human Embryology, University of Arizona, College of Medicine. He is also Chairman of The American Bioethics Advisory Commission and adult stem cell researcher.

lifeissues.net/writers/kisc/kisc_02historicparallels.html

 

[ribozyme]

It is completely irrelevant Ribozyme whether or not someone experiences pain when they are killed. Painless death or not, the act is inherently a grave moral evil. Yes, I use the word, ‘evil’ intentionally. While it is ‘wrong’ to cross the street on a red light it is evil to deprive innocent persons of their life. The guilty are even more responsible when they justify killing for reasons of pride and arrogance knowing full well these are human beings yet deny their inherent moral value.

I acknowledge your argument. I was merely presenting Singer’s argument; I was not arguing that killing embryos was moral.

 

[Jennifer123]

That is something that even Peter Singer acknowledges. To him, the question is the inherent moral worth of the embryos.

Why would the “inherent” moral worth of an embryo be any different than for any other human being?

 

[ribozyme]

Why would the “inherent” moral worth of an embryo be any different than for any other human being?

According to Singer, the issue is not the question of membership in the species Homo sapiens, but rather the embryos are considered “persons”. To Singer, those are rather different concepts. He thinks that you can be a person and not a human, and you can be a human and not a person.

 

[giagustine]

At what point in a preganancy is the developmental stage of “embryo” achieved?

When the egg and sperm join.

 

[Jennifer123]

According to Singer, the issue is not the question of membership in the species Homo sapiens, but rather the embryos are considered “persons”. To Singer, those are rather different concepts. He thinks that you can be a person and not a human, and you can be a human and not a person.

Has anyone met a person who wasn’t a human? Two humans can make something that isn’t human but it becomes human at a later stage? ONe doesn’t have to look too far in our history unfortunately to see entire classes of people being deemed “unhuman” - I don’t think I have to state the obvious. Fortunately our courts eventually ruled otherwise.

With all due respect, it’s appalling that someone like Peter Singer and his ideas have as much credibility as they do in modern academia. It should go to show how far we’ve fallen intellectually.

 

[MikeWM]

Send this to Pelosi and crew.

How about we send it to every politician who doesn’t have a polcy to ban IVF - ie. basically all of them, Republican as well as Democrat? IVF is the real problem, there’s be no embryos to perform stem cell research on if not for IVF.

Mike

 

[kim3260]

How about we send it to every politician who doesn’t have a polcy to ban IVF - ie. basically all of them, Republican as well as Democrat? IVF is the real problem, there’s be no embryos to perform stem cell research on if not for IVF.

Mike

No more IVF=No babies to experiment on

 

[Holly3278]

Finally the government acknowledges the obvious.

 

[pablo_rafael]

I have somewhat puzzled by the heated debate on stem-cell research. President Bush and the Christian-right fundamentalists have made a huge deal out of prohibiting it. But at the same time they are silent on all the embyos from fertility clinics that are thrown out. Why is it so wrong to use embryos for research but OK to toss them away as garbage?

I think more attention should be given to save the lives that are tossed away as garbage. It seems that many of our leaders have a veneer of Christianity. They will speak out on certain issues to appear “Christian” but in the end not do anything of real substance.

I see that many of you also feel the same way. I believe that everyone has a right to be given the chance at life. All life is precious. No one is disposable.

Pablo

 

[Jennifer123]

I have somewhat puzzled by the heated debate on stem-cell research. President Bush and the Christian-right fundamentalists have made a huge deal out of prohibiting it. But at the same time they are silent on all the embyos from fertility clinics that are thrown out. Why is it so wrong to use embryos for research but OK to toss them away as garbage?

I think more attention should be given to save the lives that are tossed away as garbage. It seems that many of our leaders have a veneer of Christianity. They will speak out on certain issues to appear “Christian” but in the end not do anything of real substance.

I see that many of you also feel the same way. I believe that everyone has a right to be given the chance at life. All life is precious. No one is disposable.

Pablo

I agree. The Catholic Church is very vocal about its condemnation of IVF and other procedures that ultimately are intrinsically evil.

The problem is that the universal Church is split, and most Protestant denominations moved away from the Catholic Church’s stance when they began to allow contraception in the early 20th century.

IMHO since there are so many different denominations, we can’t act as one body, and the confusion is easy to see. It makes us less effective and in the eyes of the secular world, less credible.

It’s not so much that these other “leaders” are insincere, it’s that they too are confused since they lack the wisdom found in the wholeness of the Catholic Church. Let’s be charitable towards our other Christian bretheren and pray that they too find the wisdom of the Church!