1 Timothy 2:5

[daraku]

1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus…

How to refute this claim that Jesus is a man

 

[Mankney]

Hi, I would say that Jesus was a man. He was fully man and fully divine. Jesus Christ was made man to save us.

He bridged both the worldly and the divine thus he is the mediator.

So 1 Timothy 2:5 is very much correct.

 

[Daniel_Marsh]

first read each passages below in context. You will see that mediator in those contexts speak of the sacrafice of Christ, his blood being given for the new covenant. If you read I Tim 2, it starts out at top asking others to pray for others.

1 Timothy 2

1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Galatians 3:19

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Galatians 3:20
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Hebrews 9:15
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

 

[Ilroy]

1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus…

How to refute this claim that Jesus is a man

You don’t refute the claim. He is fully man since His incarnation. He is also fully God from all eternity.
Now, if they are trying to say this verse proves He is JUST a man, then you point out all the other verses where it shows He is God.

 

[Ignatius]

1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus…

How to refute this claim that Jesus is a man

As Catholics, we agree that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully Man.

 

[daraku]

so with regards to your answers, i can say that this anti-catholic groups are out of context in understanding the verse…

 

[Ron_Conte]

1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus…

How to refute this claim that Jesus is a man

The premise of that claim is that verses in the Bible can stand on their own. One can refute that premise by this passage from Scripture:
[1 Cor]
{1:14} I give thanks to God that I have baptized none of you, except Crispus and Gaius,
{1:15} lest anyone say that you have been baptized in my name.
{1:16} And I also baptized the household of Stephanus. Other than these, I do not recall if I baptized any others.

Verse 14 says that Paul baptized no one among the Corinthians except Crispus and Gaius. But verse 16 adds that he also baptized the household of Stephanus, and perhaps others that he might not remember. Verse 14 taken in isolation is not true. But the passage taken as a whole is true.

Similarly, other verses in Scripture must be taken in the context of other verses, and of the whole Catholic Christian faith.

 

[BlestOne]

so with regards to your answers, i can say that this anti-catholic groups are out of context in understanding the verse…

Daraku,
If the anti-Catholic group is saying that this verse means that they do not need to confess to a man, just to Christ… that is where you point out that the verse tells us that our mediator is the MAN Jesus Christ… who takes it to God in mediation… and Since the MAN Jesus also knew that he wouldn’t be present to us always physically as a MAN, he gave the keys to the kingdom(authority) to Peter to be his Authority on earth. Then you explain to them that Peter and the other apostles were given the authority to bind and loose directly from Christ. Here is an explanation of the keys of the kingdom and binding and loosing:

From scborromeo.org/glad/c5.htm
scborromeo website:

The “keys of the kingdom of heaven” are the symbol of authority given only to the most trusted servant. Again, this is not an image which is foreign to Holy Scripture: It is used in Isaiah 22:22 where Eliakim is given the key to the house of David (a perpetual office since David has been dead for several hundred years), and in Revelation 1:18 where Jesus, who will judge us, is depicted as holding the keys of death and Hades.

• Finally, the “binding” and “loosing.” Very simply put, he who has the ability to bind and loose, has the ability to make the rules. As the visible head of the Church on earth, Peter is given the ability to make the earthly rules for the operation of this Church. This doesn’t mean that he can change the rules that we have received from God (such as the ten commandments and all the others contained in Holy Scripture) but he can make such determinations as the length of the fast before receiving communion and whether priests should be allowed to marry. This binding and loosing also has an Old Testament parallel in Isaiah 22:22 where Eliakim, having received the keys, has the power of the keys explained “what he opens, no one can shut, and what he shuts, no one can open.” This means that Eliakim alone among the servants has the ability to determine who is admitted and who is excluded from the house (kingdom) of David. The authority to “bind and loose” is also given to the Apostles in Matthew 18:18, with one significant difference: Only Peter has been given the “keys,” the symbol of ultimate authority.

 

[Even_So]

Daraku,
Then you explain to them that Peter and the other apostles were given the authority to bind and loose directly from Christ.

From scborromeo.org/glad/c5.htm

Found this on a search. Paul was an apostle. It is an apostle who is saying you pray to Jesus to get to God. It is also very specific: the man CHRIST JESUS (my caps for emphasis). So it is not just any man but Jesus only. I see no problem with praying to God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in the same prayer. Most interesting is the American Standard Version, where it says himself in parenthesis : 5 For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, [himself] man, Christ Jesus,

In Jesus’ Name

 

[PJM]

=daraku;3199778]1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus…

How to refute this claim that Jesus is a man

Here’s non-debatable evidence:
Lk.1:26-35 "And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’ s name was Mary.And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever. And of his kingdom there shall be no end. And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man? ** And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. **

And this:
John 10:30 “I and the Father are one”.

John 17:22 "And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one:

1 John 5:7 “And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost.** And these three are one.**”

Thanks for asking,

PJM

 

[Even_So]

Is this in relation to the JW’s? Here are a couple among many:
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Although the JW’s will argue that is why He is called Michael the Archangel because He has so many names. but He is “The mighty God”, not just a mighty God.
Joh 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

 

[dagrapevine]

Jesus being a Man?

First let me say there could be a little contraversy. in the title of the ‘man’ theory just by the proven; Facts ; of science.

After conception and the embyo begins to grow it comes to a time when it has to come in contact with the gene pool. ]

There the embryo will certain genetics to decide everything from its eye color to how tall it will grow. ect.

At the same time it has to take o chromozomes to decide it’s SEX - male or female.

When at that time it only had the one set of chromozomes [FEMALE] to choose from.

For there was NO MAN involved in this conception

So the question realy is was the Lord a Man or a Woman, and always remember

The Word is called SHE is a TREE of LIFE.

happy hunting.

www.thecomforters.org

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Peace out.

Da Grape.

 

[Even_So]

:banghead: Seriously? Never is God or Jesus referred to as a she. Ever. That’s 5453 times if I am correct. I guess we will move on to evolution now?