1962 Baronious Daily Missal Question(s)

[Odell]

I got this missal for one because we have been going to Latin mass for a little over two year. Also I wanted something for a daily Gospel reflection with the old Latin calendar. I noticed there are not daily readings for every day of the month. For instance tomorrow is August 3rd what do I read for my reflection??

Also what is the Liturgical day of the first, second, and third class and commeroation?

Thank you.

Odell

This is a daily missal

 

[Lugubrious_DBB]

Tomorrow, August 3, is a IV-class feria in the traditional calendar. As such, each individual priest has a great deal of latitude in selecting the Mass he will say and may chose from the following options:

• He may say the Mass that corresponds to the Office of the day (from the Breviary), which on ferias outside Lent is almost always the Mass of the preceding Sunday (in this case, the 11th Sunday after Pentecost), without the Gloria or Credo.
• He may say a votive Mass of a saint listed in the Martyrology, or of a mystery/event in the life of Our Lord or Our Lady (e.g., votive Mass of the Immaculate Conception), or a votive Mass for a specific intention (e.g., for peace, for the propagation of the Faith).
• He may say a Reqiuem Mass, with the propers taken from All Souls’ Day.

To your second question, the ranking system (I-class, II-class, etc.) is simply a means of determining which Mass/Office is to be said on a given day when two or more feasts occur simultaneously. In the pre-1970 rite, feasts that occur on the same day as the feast being celebrated are commemorated by adding their collect, secret, and postcommunion prayers after the prayers of the higher-ranking feast. So, for instance, today, August 2, is the feast of St. Alphonsus Liguori in the pre-1970 calendar, but it is also the feast of Pope St. Stephen I. The Mass of St. Alphonsus is said, but the prayers from the Mass of St. Stephen are said as well.

 

[Odell]

Thank you very much for your reply. It was helpful.

Could you tell me why today August 4th there is no Gospel?

Thanks again.

Odell

 

[Lormar]

Thank you very much for your reply. It was helpful.

Could you tell me why today August 4th there is no Gospel?

Thanks again.

Odell

It should refer you to which Gospel would be said during Mass in the Missal. If nothing is there, I’m assuming it would be the Gospel from the preceding Sunday. If I am wrong, someone will correct me.

I’m not familiar with the Baronius Press Missal. I use the St. Andrew Missal. It’s the best. In my opinion.

 

[porthos11]

Thank you very much for your reply. It was helpful.

Could you tell me why today August 4th there is no Gospel?

Thanks again.

Odell

I don’t have my Missal on me right now, but if August 4th has a saint, it will indicate the Mass of the day (the first words of the Introit). Since you mention that the Gospel is missing, then you’re probably seeing some texts that are specific for the day, everything else from the indicated Mass.

For example, you might see the following text:

Mass “Os justi” for a Confessor, p. xxxx, except:

Collect…Epistle…Gradual…Secret…Postcommunion

(just examples)

In which case, the priest takes what’s printed in the Proper, and anything missing, from the indicated Mass (in this example, from the Common of Confessors).

The answer to your question will really depend on what’s printed for any particular day.

The traditional Mass does not have a weekday lectionary cycle as in the Ordinary Form.

 

[Odell]

It does say “Os justi” for a Confessor. Thank you both.

Odell

 

[porthos11]

It does say “Os justi” for a Confessor. Thank you both.

Odell

Probably because it’s St. Dominic today. If there is no Gospel under St. Dominic, then the Gospel is from Mass “Os justi”.

Each saint will have its own Propers or Common.

On days that have no saint (relatively rare in the traditional calendar), the priest has the option to celebrate the Mass using the texts for the preceding Sunday, or a votive Mass. So there is no weekday cycle of readings for the Extraordinary Form.

 

[Odell]

One other question. Since the traditional mass doesn’t have a lectionary cycle and I was intending to read the Gospels in union with the Church am I defeating the purpose? Is it still liturgical in nature in unison with the whole Church? Or is that better suited for the daily readings in the new Daily Roman Missal?

 

[porthos11]

One other question. Since the traditional mass doesn’t have a lectionary cycle and I was intending to read the Gospels in union with the Church am I defeating the purpose? Is it still liturgical in nature in unison with the whole Church? Or is that better suited for the daily readings in the new Daily Roman Missal?

Privately reading the Gospels of the day, be it from the current Lectionary or the traditional Mass, while most excellent and praiseworthy, is not a liturgical exercise; it’s devotional, even if you get to sync it perfectly. It is private prayer, and while it may be in unison with the Church, it’s not the prayer “of” the Church. To do that, you need to pray the Divine Office. THAT is is a liturgical exercise, and after the Mass, is the principal manner of praying.

So go ahead and read the Gospels using whatever system or cycle you prefer. There is no element of whether this is liturgical or not, so one way is not “better” than another.

 

[Odell]

Privately reading the Gospels of the day, be it from the current Lectionary or the traditional Mass, while most excellent and praiseworthy, is not a liturgical exercise; it’s devotional, even if you get to sync it perfectly. It is private prayer, and while it may be in unison with the Church, it’s not the prayer “of” the Church. To do that, you need to pray the Divine Office. THAT is is a liturgical exercise, and after the Mass, is the principal manner of praying.

So go ahead and read the Gospels using whatever system or cycle you prefer. There is no element of whether this is liturgical or not, so one way is not “better” than another.

Thank you. I understand it now not to be liturgical but in unison and the Divine Office being both liturgical and in unison. What about the Collect and Gradual or other prayers of the mass? Would praying the mass be considered liturgical? Or just good practice?

Thanks for your patience

Odell

 

[porthos11]

Thank you. I understand it now not to be liturgical but in unison and the Divine Office being both liturgical and in unison. What about the Collect and Gradual or other prayers of the mass? Would praying the mass be considered liturgical? Or just good practice?

Thanks for your patience

Odell

It is a devout practice, but it would not be liturgical, unless of course you were actually participating IN an actual Mass. Saying the prayers in private is a great way of uniting yourself with the Mass said throughout the world, but such an act is personal and devotional, not liturgical.

It’s not liturgical because you aren’t actually celebrating the liturgy. You’re just saying the prayers as a devout practice.