2nd Baptism of a Catholic

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I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
 
No such thing.

In fact, the Church teaches that baptism can NOT be repeated when we are confident that the first time was valid. You’re just getting wet.
 
As Cor said, no such thing. I’d be inclined to ask this person for his/her “proof.” Nicely, of course . . .
 
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
We recite this truth in the Creed every Sunday, “we believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins…”
 
That is absolutely not true. In fact, if a person converts from another Christian denomination where they were Baptized, they will not be re-Baptized when they come into the Church. We believe in ONE Baptism.
 
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
Wow, your source seems to think the Church is some sort of secret society.

Pope Francis, in his Wednesday audience of 13 November 2013 said this regarding the sacraments of baptism and confession:
I cannot be baptized many times, but I can go to Confession and by doing so renew the grace of Baptism. It is as though I were being baptized for a second time. The Lord Jesus is very very good and never tires of forgiving us. Even when the door that Baptism opens to us in order to enter the Church is a little closed, due to our weaknesses and our sins. Confession reopens it, precisely because it is a second Baptism that forgives us of everything and illuminates us to go forward with the light of the Lord. Let us go forward in this way, joyfully, because life should be lived with the joy of Jesus Christ; and this is a grace of the Lord.
Unfortunately, not enough of us DO take advantage of the sacrament of confession! But these two sacraments are not one and the same.

Baptism can only happen ONCE. Confession can happen as many times as we avail ourselves of it.

God bless you!

Gertie
 
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
Catholic Christian initiation has three sacraments (in the natural order):
  • Holy Baptism,
  • Holy Confirmation or Holy Chrysmation, and
  • Holy Eucharist.
 
Achildoftheking. You asked . . .
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic. . . . Please inform!!!
I believe in ONE Baptism for the forgiveness of sins. (From the “Profession of Faith” in the Catholic Mass in the Latin Liturgy)

St. Paul likewise reminds us there is ONE Baptism.

EPHESIANS 4:4-6 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.

Pope Francis reaffirms this 2000 year old Christian teaching (here).

Achildoftheking. When you were told there was a “second baptism” it was probably from a Catholic who was likely talking about how Confirmation “completes” Baptism.

It would be easy for a non-Catholic to confuse this (many Catholics who are not catechized may not know it either).

They were almost certainly thinking of Confirmation and not a literal “second baptism”.

I hope that helps answer your question.

(End of short answer.)

God bless.

Cathoholic

If you want more info. I have included it below.

Or they may have been trying to explain there are three Sacraments of Initiation (Baptism, reception of the Holy Eucharist [Jesus Himself Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity substantially present under the appearance of bread and wine], and Confirmation.

Sacraments of Initiation
  • Baptism (can only be received once in a lifetime)
  • Confirmation (can only be received once in a lifetime)
  • Reception of The Holy Eucharist
CCC 1285 Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the "sacraments of Christian initiation," whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace. For “by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith by word and deed.”

Most likely he/she was thinking of Confirmation though.

CCC 1288a "From that time on the apostles, in fulfillment of Christ’s will, imparted to the newly baptized by the laying on of hands the gift of the Spirit that completes the grace of Baptism. . . .

CCC 1303a From this fact, Confirmation brings an increase and deepening of baptismal grace:
  • it roots us more deeply in the divine filiation which makes us cry, “Abba! Father!”;117
  • it unites us more firmly to Christ;
  • it increases the gifts of the Holy Spirit in us;
  • it renders our bond with the Church more perfect;118
  • it gives us a special strength of the Holy Spirit to spread and defend the faith by word and action as true witnesses of Christ, to confess the name of Christ boldly, and never to be ashamed of the Cross:119 . . .
CCC 1304 Like Baptism which it completes, Confirmation is given only once, for it too imprints on the soul an indelible spiritual mark, the “character,” which is the sign that Jesus Christ has marked a Christian with the seal of his Spirit by clothing him with power from on high so that he may be his witness.121

CCC 1305 This “character” perfects the common priesthood of the faithful, received in Baptism, and "the confirmed person receives the power to profess faith in Christ publicly and as it were officially (quasi Ex officio)."122

CCC 1306 Every baptized person not yet confirmed can and should receive the sacrament of Confirmation.123 Since Baptism, Confirmation, and Eucharist form a unity, it follows that "the faithful are obliged to receive this sacrament at the appropriate time,"124 for without Confirmation and Eucharist, Baptism is certainly valid and efficacious, but Christian initiation remains incomplete.

But Confirmation is not a “second” Baptism.

In Baptism we receive infinite gifts. We receive God Himself. Yet some of these gifts remain unopened or unwrapped so to speak until Confirmation (CCC 1289 states: . . . . “Confirmation suggests that this sacrament both confirms and strengthens baptismal grace.”).

Confirmation is often referred to as our “personal Pentecost”. The Apostles likewise received special gifts at Pentecost.

Incidentally. Confirmation, like Baptism (which it completes) can only be received once (as CCC 1304 says above and CCC 1317 reasserts below).

CCC 1317 Confirmation, like Baptism, imprints a spiritual mark or indelible character on the Christian’s soul; for this reason one can receive this sacrament only once in one’s life.
 
If there was doubt about the validity of the original baptism, the candidate might be baptized conditionally, i.e. “If you are not baptized, I baptize you in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”

But even that is not really a second baptism: if the first was indeed valid, the conditional one wouldn’t “take,” so to speak. If the first was not indeed valid, the conditional one would actually be the first (valid) baptism.
 
If it was one of them Charismatic types - Catholic or not - they probably were referring to something they call “baptism of the Holy Spirit” - basically glossalia and other outward (sometimes feigned) expressions, originally conceived in 1960s US/Canada from fringe Pentecostal groups. Somehow this became popular in Latin America, parts of Asia and the US
 
The ONLY time a person can have a “second Baptism” is if there is evidence that a person was not, or may not have been, baptized according to a Trinitarian formula. The Church does not accept the Baptism of some Christian churches because they are not done according to a valid formula. As a PP has stated, if there is doubt as to whether a person has been validly baptized (i.e. the person was baptized but it is not known that a Trinitarian formula was used, or it is not certain as to whether the person ever received any kind of Baptism) the person may be conditionally baptized. If it is known that the person was baptized according to a non-Trinitarian formula (the diocese has a list of Protestant sects that perform valid and invalid Baptisms) the person will be baptized, because the original Baptism was not valid.
 
The only time a 2nd baptism might become necessary is in the following situations:


  1. *]The original record of the baptism certificate became lost somehow and it is necessary to have a copy of baptismal certificate to receive one of the sacraments or something else that requires proof of baptism. Sometimes the priests will rebaptise people just to be safe to ensure they receive the graces given at baptism.
    *]An individual is entering the church from another Christian denomination whose baptism the Catholic church does not recognize because it isn’t considered trinitarian.
    *]On rare occasions, a person might decide to be rebaptised as a symbol of them rededicating their faith.
    *]Sometimes in emergencies, infants might be baptised in the hospital and then later baptised in a church.
    *]I am wondering if the person you were speaking to got their information confused because I know most evangelical, Protestant churches do not recognize infant baptisms in general- therefore if a person decides to join their churches, they ask that they are rebaptised because they believe baptism should be a personal decision which infants are too little to give.

    These are my 6 cents worth.

    I hope this helps,

    SG
 
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
No.

My guess is that your friend is a member of the Charismatic movement, and is speaking of “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” - this is not a Sacrament of the Church, and nor is it required of anyone that they believe in such a thing.
 
The only time a 2nd baptism might become necessary is in the following situations:


  1. *]The original record of the baptism certificate became lost somehow and it is necessary to have a copy of baptismal certificate to receive one of the sacraments or something else that requires proof of baptism. Sometimes the priests will rebaptise people just to be safe to ensure they receive the graces given at baptism.

  1. This would never be done lightly, and there would have to be serious doubt that the original baptism ever took place. (ie: no living witnesses, and no recollection of where it took place.)
    *]An individual is entering the church from another Christian denomination whose baptism the Catholic church does not recognize because it isn’t considered trinitarian.
    Yes. 👍
    *]On rare occasions, a person might decide to be rebaptised as a symbol of them rededicating their faith.
    “Rare” - how about “never.” We are restored to our Baptismal grace by means of the Sacrament of Reconciliation (commonly called, “going to Confession.”)
    *]Sometimes in emergencies, infants might be baptised in the hospital and then later baptised in a church.
    A completion of the Rites of Baptism would take place in the Church (including the putting on of a white garment, and the giving of a Baptismal candle), but the baby would never be re-baptized.
 
I am not speaking of an adult becoming a Catholic and being Baptized. I was told something that I never heard of and need some clarification. I was told that there is a second baptism that is done as a completion for a Catholic You receive Baptism as a baby, receive Holy Communion as a child, receive Confirmation as a young man or woman about 13 years old. Then I was told that there is one more step and that is a second baptism as an adult. Not sure of the criteria, but the person I had this discussion with said not many Catholics actually go that far. My question is, is there any such thing. Sometimes you can’t discuss things with people who are adamant about what they profess they know. Please inform!!!
I’m no expert, but I know that one of the dogmas promulgated by the Council of Trent in the 1500s is that it is a sin to baptize a person who is already baptized.

I suspect that that was a reaction against Anabaptists, but maybe someone who’s studied the history can tell us for sure.
 
If it was one of them Charismatic types - Catholic or not - they probably were referring to something they call “baptism of the Holy Spirit” - basically glossalia and other outward (sometimes feigned) expressions, originally conceived in 1960s US/Canada from fringe Pentecostal groups. Somehow this became popular in Latin America, parts of Asia and the US
No.

My guess is that your friend is a member of the Charismatic movement, and is speaking of “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” - this is not a Sacrament of the Church, and nor is it required of anyone that they believe in such a thing.
I know many of the Charismatic movement (‘types’ Syro??..umm, okay), and while I have heard that term (baptism of the Holy Spirit) not one of them would refer to it as ‘baptism’ as in the Sacrament, especially to someone who doesn’t understand the Charismatic ‘movement’ so to speak.

The ‘baptism of the Holy Spirit’ wasn’t conceived in the 1960s. It was around 2000 years ago.
 
I know many of the Charismatic movement (‘types’ Syro??..umm, okay), and while I have heard that term (baptism of the Holy Spirit) not one of them would refer to it as ‘baptism’ as in the Sacrament, especially to someone who doesn’t understand the Charismatic ‘movement’ so to speak.

The ‘baptism of the Holy Spirit’ wasn’t conceived in the 1960s. It was around 2000 years ago.
I always thought that was the Sacrament of Confirmation.
 
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