45-year-old fiancee wants birth control

[3DOCTORS]

Thanks for your post. Please provide me the name of the filter you found. The name & where you bought it, Amazon or where?

I am convinced that the increase in breast cancer, the increase in homosexuals is due in part to the excessive estrogen in our water. As well, as all of the food we consume that comes with plastic wrapping (mimics estrogen) And of course the heavy consumption of soy. Every time we turn around, someone is either gay or Bi, etc. So, please let me know the name of the filter. Thanks
God Bless you.

Prayers for the OP & his situation. You are getting good advice.

Re the hormonal stuff - I absolutely agree with you. When I was in perimenopause I was reading Dr. John Lee’s books. I’m sure there are also others on this subject by now, and some more focused on the greater environmental effects, but he was one of the first to point out about the estrogen dominance problem. Pro-life sites may also contain helpful information on the subject. Maybe the John Paul II Institute or NFP organizations as well.

 

[MerryHeart]

Withdrawal method resulted in our fifth baby.

I use an app called Lady Cycle to track fertility and so far it is working very well.

Besides the fact that the IUD is against church teaching, I can say from personal experience as a Protestant that having an IUD is miserable. My periods could last two weeks compared to my normal three days. Very heavy and painful!

 

[shelby_sun]

It’s not that I’m not open minded, it’s that a percentage of respondents took the thread condescendingly to a place where it didn’t need to go, suggesting I should break up with her and that she needs counseling. Sorry if I wasted your time.

Good for you! This is probably not the right sight to ask for advice. You might want to talk to a priest or someone you know with a similar experience.

It doesn’t sound like your fiancee is in the right state of mind to have a child, which certainly not be good for the child if you happen to have one. My question to you is you are having premarital sex, why are you worried about the Church’s teaching on birth control? Not judging or preaching just wondering because most people who are having premarital sex don’t worry about the Church’s teaching on BC.

 

[lemongrass80]

IUD is a form of abortion since it prevents like the pill the embryo from implanting. Both of you should discuss this with the priest since all forms of artificial contraception is evil. Yes she is probably going into pre menopause. I know the Pope Paul IV institute has all of info in the area, I would try to contact them. I think is it positive that you do want to be a step-dad to the 10 year old.

Regardless of how people feel about contraception, spreading inaccurate information does no one any good.

An IUD is NOT a form of abortion. It prevents fertilization from occurring in the first place. Big difference.

 

[lemongrass80]

Have to agree with Xantippe here. The IUD is IMO the most abortive contraceptive out there. Its primary mechanism is to push a fertilised egg out of the womb. I also wonder how your df can say she is “very fertile” if she has only had one child. Has she aborted before or given up children for adoption?

The primary mechanism is to prevent fertilization. End of story.

 

[Vico]

For IUD (IUC):Mechanism of action

Copper-releasing IUCs

When used as a regular or emergency method of contraception, copper-releasing IUCs act primarily to prevent fertilization. …

To make an informed choice, women must know that ECPs — like the birth control pill, patch, ring, shot, and implant,76 and even like breastfeeding 77 — prevent pregnancy primarily by delaying or inhibiting ovulation and inhibiting fertilization, but may at times inhibit implantation of a fertilized egg in the endometrium.Trussell, James; Schwarz, Eleanor Bimla (2011). “Emergency contraception”. In Hatcher, Robert A.; Trussell, James; Nelson, Anita L.; Cates, Willard Jr.; Kowal, Deborah; Policar, Michael S. Contraceptive technology (20th revised ed.). New York: Ardent Media. pp. 113–145. ISBN 978-1-59708-004-0. ISSN 0091-9721. OCLC 781956734. p. 121:

 

[lemongrass80]

For IUD (IUC):Mechanism of action

Copper-releasing IUCs

When used as a regular or emergency method of contraception, copper-releasing IUCs act primarily to prevent fertilization. …

To make an informed choice, women must know that ECPs — like the birth control pill, patch, ring, shot, and implant,76 and even like breastfeeding 77 — prevent pregnancy primarily by delaying or inhibiting ovulation and inhibiting fertilization, but may at times inhibit implantation of a fertilized egg in the endometrium.Trussell, James; Schwarz, Eleanor Bimla (2011). “Emergency contraception”. In Hatcher, Robert A.; Trussell, James; Nelson, Anita L.; Cates, Willard Jr.; Kowal, Deborah; Policar, Michael S. Contraceptive technology (20th revised ed.). New York: Ardent Media. pp. 113–145. ISBN 978-1-59708-004-0. ISSN 0091-9721. OCLC 781956734. p. 121:

“May at times” is not the same thing as “primary mechanism”

 

[3DOCTORS]

“May at times” is not the same thing as “primary mechanism”

But it is still reason enough to avoid the possibility. If you’re a firefighter and there’s a chance there’s still a person trapped in a burning building, you have to give the benefit of the doubt and look for the person, you don’t just shrug your shoulders and hope there isn’t one. In the same way, we must presume in favor of life.

 

[Galbin]

But it is still reason enough to avoid the possibility. If you’re a firefighter and there’s a chance there’s still a person trapped in a burning building, you have to give the benefit of the doubt and look for the person, you don’t just shrug your shoulders and hope there isn’t one. In the same way, we must presume in favor of life.

Many years ago I was given a leaflet for an IUD and the leaflet said that it made the womb “inhospitable” as its primary function. I then did some further reading on the subject today and found this:

"How does an intrauterine device (IUD) work?

It is not fully understood how IUDs work. They are thought to prevent conception by causing a brief localized inflammation that begins about 24 hours after insertion. This causes an inflammatory reaction inside the uterus that attracts white blood cells. The white blood cells produce substances that are toxic or poisonous to sperm. The progesterone-releasing IUDs also cause a subtle change in the endometrial environment that impairs the implantation of the egg in the uterine wall. This type of IUD also alters the cervical mucus, which, in turn, inhibits sperm from passing through the cervix."

This was from medicinenet.com/iud/page2.htm. Hardly a religious or pro life oriented site.

 

[3DOCTORS]

Many years ago I was given a leaflet for an IUD and the leaflet said that it made the womb “inhospitable” as its primary function. I then did some further reading on the subject today and found this:

"How does an intrauterine device (IUD) work?

It is not fully understood how IUDs work. They are thought to prevent conception by causing a brief localized inflammation that begins about 24 hours after insertion. This causes an inflammatory reaction inside the uterus that attracts white blood cells. The white blood cells produce substances that are toxic or poisonous to sperm. The progesterone-releasing IUDs also cause a subtle change in the endometrial environment that impairs the implantation of the egg in the uterine wall. This type of IUD also alters the cervical mucus, which, in turn, inhibits sperm from passing through the cervix."

This was from medicinenet.com/iud/page2.htm. Hardly a religious or pro life oriented site.

I’ve also found that reading the package inserts (you can Google them) for the devices say much the same as above. And it just proves the point I already made - it’s “not fully understood” how they work - they may be abortifacient. That’s the point the writers of these descriptions are waffling on. Would you buy a food to eat that “may be poisonous but we’re not really sure”?

But I realize we’ve kind of derailed the thread. It’s about helping the OP with his dilemma . . . I’ve said what I’ve been able to come up with on that subject, so I should probably bow out again.