613 Commandments in the OT for the Jewish people

[sinnerdexter]

There are 613 Commandments in the Old Testament for the Jewish people. How many of them apply to Christians?

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[Bible_Reader]

Religious Jews believe that only 369 of those commandments are currently in force, because many of the 613 commandments involve the Temple – since there is no Temple, those commandments are currently suspended.

From a Jewish perspective: Jews believe that non-Jews are only bound by the seven Noachide laws (“do the seven, go to heaven”).

From a Christian perspective: Paul exempted Gentile Christians from almost all aspects of Jewish law – even reaching to the Ten Commandments (for example, Paul exempts Gentile Christians from Sabbath observance in Colossians 2:16).

 

[Crumpy]

Thanks, I guess I never noticed that statement in Col 2:16. I’m not sure it means that we are to stop worshipping God. We have a command from Christ at the last supper to “do this in memory of Me” from whence we derive the Mass itself, for example.

At, at the “great commission” at the end of Mt’s gospel, Jesus directs the apostles to teach people to observe all that He has commanded.

The issue of what Jesus commanded is one that replaces the question in post #1. For it is THOSE commandments that we must observe.

I’m not so sure that Jesus cancelled the 10 commandments, but seemed to expand them. Regarding adultery, He said that it was adultery if a man even looked at a woman with lust in his heart, or it was murder if a man was even angry at his brother. No?

Jesus seemed to re-affirm the law of Deut 6:4ff and expanded it: You shall love the LORD your God with your whole heart, your whole soul, your whole mind, and with all your strength." (somewhere around Mk 12:28 or so)

these commands progress into increasing difficulty. Loving with your whole heart is easier than loving God with your whole soul, that is, even to the point of losing your life. And, loving with all your mind must mean without reservation, or even a contrary thought – difficult indeed. “With all your strength” to the Jews means possibly loving God even to the loss of all your possessions – giving everything up to God. Job is an example of somebody who supposedly lost everything and still said “praise the Name of the LORD.”

It’s hard to enumerate these, in a legalistic way, isn’t it? Even my shallow attempt is very challenging – it’s an ideal.

 

[Robbinson]

There are 613 Commandments in the Old Testament for the Jewish people. How many of them apply to Christians?

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The short answer is “10” (or “9” if you view the Sabbath as fulfilled in Christ).

The 10 commandments represent the “moral law” - 9 of the 10 are repeated in the NT (all but keep the Sabbath). The balance were given after the golden calf idolotry and were “fulfilled” by Christ on the Cross. Jesus refers to his “fullillment” (rather than abolishment" of the Law in Matt 5:17 - with the law continuing until “all is accomplished” - where was done on the cross with his last words - “it is finished”.

The mosaic law was a tudor leading up to the coming of the Messiah. Jer 31:31-34 told us that one day there would be a “new covenant” - expressly different than the mosaic law - and that law was written into our hearts.

The catechism teaches us that this is the 10 commandments, the moral law - which Jesus encapsulated in a more succinct way when he said to Love God with all your heart, soul and might and love our neighbor as ourselves (the golden rule).

That being said, many of the proscriptions in the Old Testatement compliment the teachings of the moral law (10 commandments), though the substantially majority of the 613 commandments related to mattes clearly fulfilled by Christ (temple, sacrifice, etc.).

Blessings,

Brian

 

[DPMartin]

There are 613 Commandments in the Old Testament for the Jewish people. How many of them apply to Christians?

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sinnerdexter

In Christ Jesus they are fulfilled, for only the Word of God in the Holy Spirit can fulfill Commandments to the satisfaction of the Father. The creature doesn’t have the ability the Creator does. No more then darkness, void, and without form have the ability to be Light.

In Christ it applies, without Christ, how could it?