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Eugenius
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You have understood perfectly, thank you!
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altarboi20
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Can I get a AMEN!?
You are so right! As a gay Catholic I believe my freedom is being violated by churches who do not accept my way of life and because they do not accept who I am they refuse to let me have full freedom as every one who is straight has the freedom to marry. We are second class citizens.
You are so right! As a gay Catholic I believe my freedom is being violated by churches who do not accept my way of life and because they do not accept who I am they refuse to let me have full freedom as every one who is straight has the freedom to marry. We are second class citizens.
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benedictus2
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No, you do not get an “Amen!”. You get “ Pure Hogwash”.
You are not excluded. Homosexual is not who you are. You are a person – a child of God who happens to be attracted to the same sex. In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with being attracted. It is when you put into action this perversity that you exclude yourself.
Your freedom is not being violated. You violate your own freedom when instead of aligning your will the Source of Freedom that you become un-free. It is sin that enslaves.
No, you are not second class citizens. But any perversion should be exposed and the Truth proclaimed. It is because you are blinded and enslaved by this perversity that you do not see right. You now see your enslavement as freedom and perceive the call to freedom as a call to chains.
The devil is the father of lies. We have to align our minds to Christ’s who is Truth else we succumb to the wiles of the father of the lies.
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Eugenius
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Out of curiosity, what exactly is there about marriage that appeals to you? What would you want out of it? There are already legal documents that could provide some of what you are looking for (a will or power of attorney, for example).
Married people enter ino a covenant with each other and with God. They cease to be two people, they sacrifice their so called “freedom” for the good of the other and become one. For someone so intent on their freedom, would you really be able to give it up for another?
Remember the old cartoons characterizing marriage as the old “ball and chain”? Some people feel trapped in their marriages, others endure emotional or physical abuse, a large number end up in divorce. Some families have problems providing for their children. Marriage can be extremely beautiful, but too many people think the Disney version is what they will get. Unfortunately for a lot of people marriage is not a lot of fun. So what exactly do you see in it that you want?
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Elizabeth502
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on that dreary note…
I think without intention you have just framed an excellent advertising campaign to discourage homosexual “marriage.” (On the grounds of incomparable misery.) :frighten:
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sw85
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This has GOT to be trolling.
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Eugenius
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Unfortunately this is the reality for too many people.
on that dreary note…
I think without intention you have just framed an excellent advertising campaign to discourage homosexual “marriage.” (On the grounds of incomparable misery.) :frighten:
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Nate13
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Here is the secret to being happy in your marriage: Don’t make your goal in marriage to be “happy”. Chasing happiness or fun is a fleeting goal that will always jump back out of your reach every time you try and grab it. Instead make your goal serving God, and you will be surprised when without even running after it peace and happiness comes your way.
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benedictus2
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That sums up the key to happiness in every aspect of life - not just marriage. Seek first the kingdom of God and everything else will given. That is the only way to true and lasting joy and peace.
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Eugenius
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I agree 100% with both of you here. Just to clarify, my marriage is fine. Unfortunately I
see some of the conditions I described above in my neighborhood and workplace.
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InSearchofGrace
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Eugenius,
I happened to open an archived link in my laptop and cited it in another related thread as it was relevant. I think it’s also relevant here. Let me pass it on to you to read as the writer has a nice recap on why society should still give marriage a special honor, no matter what heterosexuals and homosexuals did and continually do that have bad consequences. Her last paragraph nails it.
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hutch976
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Hey everyone, OP here…
I thought I would just chime back in, as this thread has blown up a little bit since I stopped commenting about 50 posts ago when my question was answered and viewpoint changed.
I don’t like labels. I think in some ways, society makes issues worse and/or more complicated by putting labels and PC on everything.
I don’t identify myself as straight, irish-american, a Steeler fan, (insert political party if I cared enough to belong to one), or anything like that. I hate those labels. They are so constricting.
I like what someone said earlier, don’t label yourself as “gay”, because personally, I hate saying “I’m straight”.
We are all children of God. Period. We are all equal in Christ and subject to the same rules. We are soldiers of God, and the sacrifices we have to make are all different when it comes to being on the right path for finding God again.
What is more important? Yourself and your desires, or Christ?
As you can see from the start of this post, and probably from your own experiences as a son/daughter, student, whatever…sometimes it is hard to see the truth or practicality of “rules”, and it is SO easy to put them into question and tear them apart with your own logic…but have FAITH in them. Have faith in Christ’s Church, who has stood through endless threats from the outside and from corruption within.
I thought I would just chime back in, as this thread has blown up a little bit since I stopped commenting about 50 posts ago when my question was answered and viewpoint changed.
I don’t like labels. I think in some ways, society makes issues worse and/or more complicated by putting labels and PC on everything.
I don’t identify myself as straight, irish-american, a Steeler fan, (insert political party if I cared enough to belong to one), or anything like that. I hate those labels. They are so constricting.
I like what someone said earlier, don’t label yourself as “gay”, because personally, I hate saying “I’m straight”.
We are all children of God. Period. We are all equal in Christ and subject to the same rules. We are soldiers of God, and the sacrifices we have to make are all different when it comes to being on the right path for finding God again.
What is more important? Yourself and your desires, or Christ?
As you can see from the start of this post, and probably from your own experiences as a son/daughter, student, whatever…sometimes it is hard to see the truth or practicality of “rules”, and it is SO easy to put them into question and tear them apart with your own logic…but have FAITH in them. Have faith in Christ’s Church, who has stood through endless threats from the outside and from corruption within.
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