A couple of Questions on Greek Catholics

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Canon law as translated by the Canon Law Society of the US uses “Divine Worship Service” as the generic.
The CCEO mentions “Divine Worship” (667), not “Divine Worship Service”. The CCEO also mentions “Divine Liturgy” in most places (such as 700) when specifically speaking of the Eucharistic celebration.
Exarch is a bishop who is the ordinary of a given area, but is not enthroned as THE bishop of a place. Exarchs are auxiliary bishops to some other bishop, but tasked with running an exarchate; it’s the step between a deanery and a diocese/eparchy.
So His Grace + Hlib is an auxiliary bishop assigned as ordinary over the exarchate, which eventually may (and very hopefully will) become a diocese.
His Grace +Hlib is not an auxiliary of any diocese but the Exarch of Great Britain and Ireland. He is also not a dean. An Exarch does not have to be an auxiliary of any other Eparchy according to the CCEO.
 
The CCEO mentions “Divine Worship” (667), not “Divine Worship Service”. The CCEO also mentions “Divine Liturgy” in most places (such as 700) when specifically speaking of the Eucharistic celebration.

His Grace +Hlib is not an auxiliary of any diocese but the Exarch of Great Britain and Ireland. He is also not a dean. An Exarch does not have to be an auxiliary of any other Eparchy according to the CCEO.
Now I am confused again about what exactly an Exarch is 😊:confused:

is he the Bishop of Ireland and Great Britain Diak?

Pax Christi
Stephen
 
There is as yet no Ukrainian Greek Catholic Eparchy of Great Britain. There is an Exarchate, and +Hlib is the Exarch. The Exarch has the authority of a Bishop (can ordain, etc.) until the Synod actually elevates the Exarchate to a Eparchy. He then becomes the Eparch (Eparchial Bishop) and is no longer the Exarch. Think of it as an “Eparchy under construction”. Sometimes this takes many years before the Exarchate gradautes to an Eparchy.
 
There is as yet no Ukrainian Greek Catholic Eparchy of Great Britain. There is an Exarchate, and +Hlib is the Exarch. The Exarch has the authority of a Bishop (can ordain, etc.) until the Synod actually elevates the Exarchate to a Eparchy. He then becomes the Eparch (Eparchial Bishop) and is no longer the Exarch. Think of it as an “Eparchy under construction”. Sometimes this takes many years before the Exarchate gradautes to an Eparchy.
great that really cleared things up for me thank you Diak 👍😃

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Stephen <3
 
Except that Bishop Hlib is listed as a titular bishop (which is synonymous with Auxiliary bishop) of the Patriarchal Curia, making him an auxiliary of the Patriarch, since his see is titular only.

byzcath.org/index.php/news-mainmenu-49/2707-bishop-hlib-lonchyna-appointed-apostolic-administrator-for-ukrainian-greek-catholics-in-great-britain
Bishop Hlib is titular Bishop of Bareta and Bishop of the Curia of the Major Archbishop of Kyïv-Halyč. He currently Apostolic Visitator for Ukrainian Catholics in Ireland.
He is also NOT actually the Exarch, but the Apostolic Administrator Sede Vacante… (it’s on several sites, including ByzCath, gcatholic, and several news sites.)

In other words, he’s not actually the ordinary, but appointed to serve in place of the empty seat of the exarchy.

gcatholic.com/dioceses/diocese/grea1.htm
 
Except that Bishop Hlib is …

He is also NOT actually the Exarch, but the Apostolic Administrator Sede Vacante…

In other words, he’s not actually the ordinary, but appointed to serve in place of the empty seat of the exarchy. …
It’s an exarchy because it is outside of established eparchies of the Ukrainian Catholic Church. The history Of Great Britain of the Ukrainians:
1963-1987 Bishop Augustine Eugene Hornyak, O.S.B.M. (Apostolic Exarch)
1987-1989 Bishop Michel Hrynchyshyn, C.SS.R. (Apostolic Administrator)
1988-2002 Bishop Michael Kuchmiak, C.SS.R. (Apostolic Exarch)
2002-2006 Bishop Paul Patrick Chomnycky, O.S.B.M. (Apostolic Exarch)
2009-now Bishop Hlib Lonchyna, M.S.U. (Apostolic Administrator)

The Administrators generally have more restrictions to what they can do than an exarch.

Desolate missionary areas – psuedo-diocese
  1. Independent mission or mission sui iuris – governed by an Ecclesiastical Superior (cleric or bishop)
Missionary areas — governed in the name of the Supreme Pontiff:
2. Apostolic Prefecture (next step after mission sui iuris) – usually not a bishop
3. Apostolic Vicariate/Exarchy (next step after Apostolic Prefecture) – usually a bishop *
4. Apostolic Administration (Stable) – as needed, with defined (limited) powers *

Established
5. Diocese/Eparchy – governed by bishop/eparch *
6. Territorial Abbacy – territory governed by abbot
7. Territorial Prelature – territory governed by prelate directly of the Supreme Pontiff
8. Personal Prelature – secular organizations governed by prelate directly of the Supreme Pontiff, there is one: Opus Dei
9. Military Ordinariate *
  • It seems that Eastern Catholic Churches only use the Apostolic Exarchy, Apostolic Administration, Eparchy, and Military Ordinariate, but I don’t know for certain.
 
Except that Bishop Hlib is listed as a titular bishop (which is synonymous with Auxiliary bishop) of the Patriarchal Curia, making him an auxiliary of the Patriarch, since his see is titular only.
All bishops historically were titular according to Eastern tradition. According to the CCEP a titular bishop is simply “to whom an eparchy has not been entrusted for governing in their own name, whatever other function in the Church they exercise or exercised”. This does NOT automatically mean they are an auxiliary. My previous statement was correct, since nowhere on the official Synodal site (the one of primary importance to the UGCC hierarchy) is +Hlib stated as an auxiliary: ugcc.org.ua/37.0.html By the way the term in Ukrainian for “auxiliary” is “Єпископ-помічник” (literally “bishop’s helper”) which is NOT used for +Hlib.
[He is also NOT actually the Exarch, but the Apostolic Administrator Sede Vacante… (it’s on several sites, including ByzCath, gcatholic, and several news sites.)
In other words, he’s not actually the ordinary, but appointed to serve in place of the empty seat of the exarchy.
He is the " Апостольський адміністратор Екзархії " or the Exarchial Administrator and has been given the authority of an Exarch until the disposition of the Exarchate is resolved by the Synod. In reality he acts as the Exarch during this time even if temporarily.

Exarchs are not considered “Ordinary” anyway in the CCEO (this is a Latin term) since that term used in the Latin sense almost always applies to established dioceses and archdioceses.
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In addition to the previous list, there are also Ordinariates for the Faithful of the Eastern Rite, in some countries, like France, Poland, and Austria. They lack their own bishop.


Exarchs are not considered “Ordinary” anyway in the CCEO (this is a Latin term) since that term used in the Latin sense almost always applies to established dioceses and archdioceses.
I have a list of terms that might help for translation, but they are only approximate:

CCEO, CIC​

Protopresbyter, Vicar Forane
Protosyncellus, Vicar General
Syncellus, Episcopal Vicar
Apostolic Exarch, Apostolic Vicar
Eparchial Bishop, Diocesan Bishop
Hierarch, Ordinary
 
A Church sui iuris is a Catholic church with its own hierarchy in full communion with the reigning pope as explained by Aramis above. Thus the Latin (or Roman—here in the U.S., we are the majority), Maronite, Ukrainian Greek Catholic, Ruthenian Catholic, Coptic Catholic, Chaldean Catholic, etc., etc. Each is governed by either a patriarch, a major archbishop, a metropolitan archbishop, or some other hierarch.

To make a canonical transfer, you have to have been practicing your Catholic faith in the Church desired for a minimal amount of time—I think 1-2 years is the bare minimum—I recommend more, since your are making a once in a lifetime change. This is important, since,as noted above, with some exceptions, you can only change Churches once in your lifetime and there is some variation in the canon law (an Eastern Catholic cannot marry his/her sibling in law after the death of his/her spouse, for example, or for that matter, a person whom they sponsored as a baptismal godparent, w/o an idult from the Holy See). Once you have been practicing your faith in the desired Church for a while, you petition the local diocesan/eparchial bishop of the Church you want to go to, who then receives the assent of the one you are leaving. He then writes to the Congregation for the Eastern Churches, who acts in the name of the reigning pope and decides whether to grant your request. That’s the basics of it. (Or maybe you petition the Congregation directly, who then receives the assent of the bishops. I can’t remember.) This is assuming you are already a practicing Catholic. For those who are not, canon law dictates that when you become a Catholic, you automatically become a member of the Church which corresponds to the Church or community you are coming from regardless of where you are received into full communion with the Catholic Church (say, a Ukrainian Orthodox Christian would become a Ukrainian Catholic, for example—don’t quote me on this, consult a canon lawyer if you’re in this situation). You could then initiate a petition to transfer.

That being said, don’t just change Churches just b/c you are interested in becoming a married priest (I’m not saying that you are). You have to be sure that you are happy worshipping in the Church of interest and can live with the laws and/or customs of said Church (Eastern Catholic have different fasting rules before Divine Liturgy, I believe, and they also don’t have confessionals, with the exception of the Maronites (?)----also, with the exception of the Maronites, the Eastern Churches don’t use instruments in divine worship). That being said, I highly encourage my fellow Latin Catholics to visit an Eastern Catholic DL at least once in their lifetime. And similarly, I would like to encourage my brethren in the Eastern Churches to visit an AU Mass or a TLM (I haven’t been to a TLM myself) sometime. But I can’t post this last invite here since we’re in the Eastern forums, and it would be off-topic. 😉
Thank you for this very detailed answer. I actually registered here for the first time in order to post questions that your answer provided. Specifically, I was curious if a married person who is in the Latin Rite can switch to the Eastern Rite and become a Priest. It would appear that would be possible, but a person would obviously have to do more than that.
 
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