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JDaniel
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continuation . . .
God bless,
jd
But, God is not bound. He is absolutely unrestricted. We are not a bubble within an Infinite God, and He is not a bubble in a larger nothingness.To take from His being and surround it with nothing to bound it as He is bound, means that all we have comes from Him and we share in His being without in fact being Him. It is His being that animates us, yet because of the nothing we are divided and distinct. Being bounded by nothing makes us in fact made in His image.
An interesting postulation.
- A limitless first mover is only possible if the first movement is not additive requiring space and time but rather is subtractive thus creating space and time.
This is a reference to the Incarnation. Of course, we know that God subsists as Three Persons in one Supreme Unity. God does not consist of parts - nothing that is infinite can exist as a quantity of parts. Christ emptied Himself of that form which constitutes God. We are not told precisely how.if every creation is a self-limiting of God, it is not contrary to His divine nature to limit Himself. “He emptied himself…” (phillipians 2).
Or, all that He is.If the first move was in fact a subtraction then we can indeed posit a single limitless and all-powerful God whose only potential (inherent in His all-powerful nature) is the ability to choose to be less.
This is a postulation that seems to derive from your other postulations, not St. Thomas.That every alternative state is a lesser state.
I disagree.To be a creator is to be less then the all encompassing presence. This would mean that God could only move from a state of highest good to a lesser state by choice. This may also mean what God has emptied He has the power to fill up again. Therefore, though he has chosen limitation he has. not truly relinquished His all powerful condition. “no one can take my life from me, I lay it down willingly and I have the power to take it up again” (paraphrase John 12?).
By the positive Creation of mobile being(s), Time simultaneously comes to be. There is no need to “create” time.By self reduction it creates a distinction which creates time.
The above is very, very convoluted. It is good to see that you are working it through, as we are supposed to. You need to replace your fanciful definitions with better definitions. That’s all.There was this moment that God was infinite and now this moment that He is limited. The first moment of limitless being with no distinction I would call the eternal moment. It is not that there isn’t time but that there is only one point rendering the nature of time meaningless. Thus in this singular moment of time there may be action. This is what we call an eternal creation (angels) or may exist the Eternal realities. This is the “to be” present tense moment “I AM”. Therefore the first move creates a second or multiple moments by which time is “created” or given meaning apart from the eternal moment. With the limitation of moment to moment there is needed a border of nothing to distinguish this being from that… This moment from that.
Transcendental Love.I believe that this would be a good place to stop. I hope that these ideas were at least intriguing to one who has stepped into these mysteries. I can’t help but see the crucified Jesus when I think of a creator literally pouring himself out in love to create everything that is. To see God sacrifice himself in love and humility in order that we might exist for relationship with him.
Could you define “subtractive rather than additive?” You used these terms hereinabove, but, even there they were unclear.The key point is this, is it possible that the first move was subtractive rather than additive?
God bless,
jd