Well, I just linked the article, I didn’t write it. But your point is well taken. The Calvinists I have met over the years strike me as somber, cynical, and judgmental. I can only attribute this directly to their theology.To the OP; I’ve read a direct Calvinist response to a parent who was wondering about the salvation of her children. The Calvinist was clear; they were either elect or not, and there we nothing either they or their mother could do for them. It was one of the most heartbreaking replies I’d ever read.
IMO, Five-point Calvinism logically turns into hyper-Calvinism.
If one thinks about it, how would even those who believe in OSAS know for sure that they were part of the elect? I, myself, would worry about that…To the OP; I’ve read a direct Calvinist response to a parent who was wondering about the salvation of her children. The Calvinist was clear; they were either elect or not, and there we nothing either they or their mother could do for them. It was one of the most heartbreaking replies I’d ever read.
IMO, Five-point Calvinism logically turns into hyper-Calvinism.
really…you have the the more pure gospel? how did you come to that conclusion?The Reformed tradition does offer the Gospel despite its Many errors , although Lutherans teach the Gospel more purely, dont just bash other churches saying they offer nothing , when they also have the Word and Sacraments .
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do you think Luther erred?Luther was a heretic according to the Catholic Church and excommunicated as such. Lutherans don’t teach the gospel more purely. They have no claim to infallibly do so.
Plus they are divided in and of themselves into synods such as LCMS, WELS, ELCA with no altar and pulpit fellowship between the synods. That’s what the pure gospel leads to.
Division? Why is there such division in the Lutheran Church if you are teaching the pure gospel?
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do you think Luther does not fall under the category of the one of these false teachers that caused divisions?
That’s not correct. They may have it made, or they may not. Calvinists don’t believe post-faith works contribute to their salvation. Salvation precedes post-faith works, and it is salvation and faith that is a gift from God that spurs those works. However, post-faith works are the measure by which you can know if you are part of the elect (saved). A falling away from the faith or dying in a state of grave sin is evidence that they were never in the elect and are not saved. Simply because if you were chosen by God, He wouldn’t have let that happen. So in a proper understanding of Calvinism, there is much emphasis on post-salvation works.Calvinists I know don’t believe in post-faith works as per Scriptures at all. As far as they are concerned they have got it made.
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So right you are!Catholics believe, Faith AND Works, NOT faith vs. works. Very BIG difference. God Bless, Memaw
yes they are. somewhat self righteous as well. I agree it ties in to their theology.Well, I just linked the article, I didn’t write it. But your point is well taken. The Calvinists I have met over the years strike me as somber, cynical, and judgmental. I can only attribute this directly to their theology.
Only if God or some other force forced those choices denying free will.So, from God’s perspective, predestination is how things really are.
If God did not choose to perform the creative act, none of the choices by the creation would have been made, therefore God has some responsibility for each of those choices.Only if God or some other force forced those choices denying free will.