A Study in Contrasts - Two Christmas Mass Experiences

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I had to share these two experiences here, because I really think they offer such an opportunity for each of us to learn and reflect on our own missions within our parishes, and how we might be helping to bring people into the church or drive them away. My apologies if it’s a little disjointed - as you’ll discover if you make it to the end, it’s been a busy few days 🙂

Since joining the church, I’ve been very involved in the Christmas preparations and masses. We hold multiple Christmas Eve masses, and as there is difficulty finding lectors for the Midnight Mass, I agreed to read so it was one less thing the coordinator had to worry about, even though my choir was singing at an earlier Mass. This year’s Midnight Mass was as beautiful as always - perhaps a little less well-attended than in previous years, but those of us who were there listened and participated with a sincerity and intensity that made up for any lack of numbers. I read the first reading, from Isaiah, and it was one of those rare moments where hearing the words, spoken aloud from the ambo, provided a truly touching and moving experience. It was strengthened by the positive comments I received from the other parishioners on my delivery, and the general well-wishes that reminded me that I was among a family. I left with a renewed sense in the wonderful gift I had been given in this faith.

Fast forward to this morning’s Mass. One of the tasks I agreed to help with this year was decorating the church. Ours is a sizeable church, and the task of decorating it took about two days of solid work, in addition to the hour or so of time spent each day since coming in to care for trees and flowers (and make the minor repairs to decorations that always seem to be needed). This morning, I arrived early before the Mass to check that the poinsettias still had enough water, as the church had been warm during both of the previous Masses I had attended the previous night, and I was concerned that our group’s plan to water the poinsettias well on Christmas Eve and then check them December 26 might not suffice (I was right).

After seeing me care for the flowers, one of the parishioners approached me upset about a particular decoration on the sanctuary. I had little to do with the decoration, and said so, but rather than listening when I advised him to speak to the pastor if he was concerned (who had been there to help us decorate, and carefully oversees everything in the church) he proceeded to dress me down - in front of other parishioners - about how “disgraceful” this decoration was and how he was “disgusted” and “offended”, until I finally forcefully stopped him and told him again to take it up with the pastor.

I’m young and a new Catholic - the type of person people insist we need more of in the pews. I love to help and to volunteer. But it’s hard to keep up that enthusiasm when you get met with this type of attitude just because you were there. Just because you were willing to help.

I don’t need any reassurance that this person was wrong to speak to me as he did - I’m confident of that. And I can hold on to the experience of Midnight Mass, the experience of standing in front of that church, my church, with my faith family, and saying the words: “for unto us a child is born, a son given to us…” No one can take that from me, and it is so much more powerful than one person who chooses to be offended by a silly decoration. But as we reflect on what it means to carry out our Saviour’s mission, I think it’s important to reflect on how ALL of our words and actions can and will be interpreted in light of our role of Christ’s disciples. In what we say, and in what we do, are we drawing people closer to God, or pushing them away?
 
By all means hold on to your Midnight Mass experiences. As for this man, telling him to speak to the pastor instead of arguing with him was your best course of action. I would have probably suggested that he volunteer for the decorating committee next year if he had concerns. I have to admit that I’m curious as to what decoration he found “disgusting” and “offensive.”

God bless you for helping out where needed. I’m a relatively recent convert. I used to volunteer, but found that the people who have done this things for years were dead set against having any help. They preferred to complain about all that they do without help.
 
I think you handled it well. I’m sure there are other people in your Parish who appreciate the work you do.
 
I think you handled it well. I’m sure there are other people in your Parish who appreciate the work you do.
Yes, indeed. Well done for keeping self-control and I am really sorry that you were spoken to like that.

What on earth was the person objecting to? I can’t imagine what could be disgusting about the decorations put up in the average church. Do you think there was a mental health problem? Or it might help you to write it off as being one and so the person couldn’t help it - in other words, it was nothing personal.
 
We are all desperate to know what the decoration is. 😃

Sorry you went through that. Oh, and no good deed goes unpunished.
 
We are all desperate to know what the decoration is. 😃

Sorry you went through that. Oh, and no good deed goes unpunished.
It was just a sparkly decoration. Truthfully, it hadn’t been included as a “decorating choice” more as a “it’s Christmas, let’s remember that we should be able to have some fun and smile and we’ll see if anyone says anything.” In the two weeks that the decorations have been up, no one (including this parishioner, who is in the church frequently) even noticed it.

Sometimes I think we take ourselves too seriously.
 
Sorry that you came across a jerk, but did you come in thinking that all Catholics were perfect? That isn’t the way it works in any church or group. Some people have issues. We can’t just discard any person who isn’t friendly or respectful enough. They are God’s people too.
 
It was just a sparkly decoration. Truthfully, it hadn’t been included as a “decorating choice” more as a** “it’s Christmas, let’s remember that we should be able to have some fun and smile and we’ll see if anyone says anything.”** In the two weeks that the decorations have been up, no one (including this parishioner, who is in the church frequently) even noticed it.

Sometimes I think we take ourselves too seriously.
I’m sorry you were spoken so harshly to. You are right that we need to think about how our words and actions affect other people’s faith. The part I bolded did make me wonder if the decoration that was placed around the altar was also thought about with this intention-how will it affect others faith. If there was talk about who might notice and will anyone comment, it makes me wonder if it was already suspected some people might be offended. I realize you weren’t the one to make this decision.
 
Sorry that you came across a jerk, but did you come in thinking that all Catholics were perfect? That isn’t the way it works in any church or group. Some people have issues. We can’t just discard any person who isn’t friendly or respectful enough. They are God’s people too.
Wow. That was a little uncalled for.

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be discarded or suggesting that all Catholics were perfect. I was suggesting - and for that reason, I included this in the evangelization forum - that this could be a lesson we can learn from as we move forward in trying to evangelize and bring people to - or back to - the church.

We can learn from these situations, and if we shove our heads in the sand and dismiss them, we will continue to see the same trends we are seeing. So often we look at our church leadership to “fix” the problems of declining church interest, attendance, participation, but each of us have to look at ourselves and ask what we can or might be doing that affects those same issues. And for me, one of the things I can do is share my experience as a new Catholic and a young Catholic - and that’s what I’m doing.
 
Maybe years from now you’ll think back to this as a funny story of people’s peculiarities, rather than one in which you were made to feel awful.
 
I’m sorry you were spoken so harshly to. You are right that we need to think about how our words and actions affect other people’s faith. The part I bolded did make me wonder if the decoration that was placed around the altar was also thought about with this intention-how will it affect others faith. If there was talk about who might notice and will anyone comment, it makes me wonder if it was already suspected some people might be offended. I realize you weren’t the one to make this decision.
I actually didn’t question or debate whether or not he had a right or reason to be upset or offended - though personally I do feel we sometimes take ourselves too seriously (I have heard this same person complain copiously if a lector mispronounces a name).

My concern was with how they chose to handle the situation and how those types of actions affect our relationships with each other and the environment inside our church. There were other parishioners - some I knew and some I didn’t - standing around. If they were people who had spent little time in our church, what sort of impression did they leave with? If it was someone who - like me when I was first exploring the faith - decided to come for that “special” Mass as a means of testing the waters, how did that affect their experience? These are the things I think we can learn from as we move forward.
 
To the OP, in my years of volunteering, I have learned a truth. There are few who care about their parish, there are few who care about their faith, there are fewer still who, tempted by the evil one, denegrate those who love to volunteer. I agree with the others who say you handled it well. I hope you have a pastor who tells complainers to volunteer and HELP instead of COMPLAIN.
 
Wow. That was a little uncalled for.

I wasn’t suggesting anyone be discarded or suggesting that all Catholics were perfect. I was suggesting - and for that reason, I included this in the evangelization forum - that this could be a lesson we can learn from as we move forward in trying to evangelize and bring people to - or back to - the church.

We can learn from these situations, and if we shove our heads in the sand and dismiss them, we will continue to see the same trends we are seeing. So often we look at our church leadership to “fix” the problems of declining church interest, attendance, participation, but each of us have to look at ourselves and ask what we can or might be doing that affects those same issues. And for me, one of the things I can do is share my experience as a new Catholic and a young Catholic - and that’s what I’m doing.
You still aren’t getting it. Unless you’ve got a giant, light-up Rudolph in the middle of the altar, people who go up to random flower waterers and complain about decorations are nuts. If people could just turn crazy off in order to make the world feel more comfortable , they would, but that just isn’t the nature of crazy. The people who are in a place where they are introspective enough to even consider how their actions and words look to others are not going to have their holiday ruined by a decoration anyway. (Unless you are seriously downplaying the ridiculousness of this decoration.) People who are capable of considering how their actions are or are not an evangelizing force for others are already doing their best not to be jerks. But when you demand the same of neurotic decoration Nazis, you are asking something of people that they are not capable of giving. What those of us who are fully functioning on a social level CAN do is realize that our faith can not be attached to whether or not other people are jerks or nutty. We don’t come to the Catholic Church for friendliness, fellowship, donut Sundays, or good manners. We come to the Catholic Church for Jesus, and because we believe it is the Church He established.
 
You still aren’t getting it. Unless you’ve got a giant, light-up Rudolph in the middle of the altar, people who go up to random flower waterers and complain about decorations are nuts. If people could just turn crazy off in order to make the world feel more comfortable , they would, but that just isn’t the nature of crazy. The people who are in a place where they are introspective enough to even consider how their actions and words look to others are not going to have their holiday ruined by a decoration anyway. (Unless you are seriously downplaying the ridiculousness of this decoration.) People who are capable of considering how their actions are or are not an evangelizing force for others are already doing their best not to be jerks. But when you demand the same of neurotic decoration Nazis, you are asking something of people that they are not capable of giving. What those of us who are fully functioning on a social level CAN do is realize that our faith can not be attached to whether or not other people are jerks or nutty. We don’t come to the Catholic Church for friendliness, fellowship, donut Sundays, or good manners. We come to the Catholic Church for Jesus, and because we believe it is the Church He established.
I can see your point. I think I just get concerned because I do love this church and this faith and it hurts me when I see others acting in a way that would hurt either.

As for the “ridiculousness” of the decoration - it wasn’t anything ridiculous or sacriligious (our pastor wouldn’t permit that). It had been there for two weeks, including through the previous Sunday Masses. No one else had said anything. The parishioner in question attends daily Mass. It was the first time he had even noticed it. That’s the scale of decoration we’re talking about.
 
Taking this person’s rant with humility, kindness, and gentleness would teach the people around sanctuary at the time of how Christ would act. I’m not saying you did or did not act Christ-like, I’m just saying that people seeing you listen to this person with poise and gently guiding them to whoever was in charge could have a greater impact on them than if this person never ranted at all.
 
Unfortunately there are many people around who will criticise anyone doing anything to help out at their parish. This has certainly been my experience, which is why I only do one or two things now.
 
Sparkly?? Sparkly?? Well there’s the problem!

I happened to have been invited to a nondenominational Christian church and attended the service. There were at least 20 video monitors the main one was at least 150 feet wide and 40 feet tall. Talk about sensory overload!

Hope you are feeling better about the whole thing. Hand it over to God to sort out.

Peace, g
 


After seeing me care for the flowers, one of the parishioners approached me upset about a particular decoration on the sanctuary. I had little to do with the decoration, and said so, but rather than listening when I advised him to speak to the pastor if he was concerned (who had been there to help us decorate, and carefully oversees everything in the church) he proceeded to dress me down - in front of other parishioners - about how “disgraceful” this decoration was and how he was “disgusted” and “offended”, until I finally forcefully stopped him and told him again to take it up with the pastor.

I’m young and a new Catholic - the type of person people insist we need more of in the pews. I love to help and to volunteer. But it’s hard to keep up that enthusiasm when you get met with this type of attitude just because you were there. Just because you were willing to help.

I don’t need any reassurance that this person was wrong to speak to me as he did - I’m confident of that. And I can hold on to the experience of Midnight Mass, the experience of standing in front of that church, my church, with my faith family, and saying the words: “for unto us a child is born, a son given to us…” No one can take that from me, and it is so much more powerful than one person who chooses to be offended by a silly decoration. But as we reflect on what it means to carry out our Saviour’s mission, I think it’s important to reflect on how ALL of our words and actions can and will be interpreted in light of our role of Christ’s disciples. In what we say, and in what we do, are we drawing people closer to God, or pushing them away?
If there’s any comfort for you to hear this - sometimes working for an entity where everybody has an interest on one way or the other, it can be a thankless job. There would be more criticism and less recognition. Whether you are in position volunteering to work for a social club or a church, you would likely meet the kind of attitude that you just related.

Seeing that you are a young person, by your last paragraph you seem to be very mature for your age and I would like to commend that.

If I were you, probably I would fare much worse in such situation. I would take the person on and give it to him properly, and to be ashamed later for unable to handle it in an ideal Christian manner.

Trying to be patient and to turn the other cheek, so to speak, is a life long process. It is a challenge that’s difficult to overcome - to allow Jesus to increase and oneself to decrease. Some people are better at this than others; and for our weaknesses we can only pray that we shall be more and more like Jesus each and every day.

Unfortunately it is the narrow road that we need to tread so that we can be the light to the world / people around us, so that by our action we can give glory to the Father in heaven.

God bless you and have a blessed Christmas.
 
People do like to complain. I know I do. As I’ve grown older I’ve tried to resist complaining unless I’m willing to help do things the ‘right’ way. Also I often wonder about how much complaining our poor priests hear. I can only imagine.

My approach is in general to try to praise the different things I like rather then complain about the things I don’t like. So if something nice is done out of the ordinary praise it rather then complain about the ordinary thing I don’t like. I try to comment first on something I like before I comment on something I don’t like.

As for your worry about your enthusiasm to help just remember Jesus was insulted, mocked, derided and worse and think of what He was doing for all of mankind.
God bless you for helping out where needed. I’m a relatively recent convert. I used to volunteer, but found that the people who have done this things for years were dead set against having any help. They preferred to complain about all that they do without help.
There can be plenty of that for sure. People can own jobs and jealously guard them. They can even have martyr complexes.
 
You still aren’t getting it. Unless you’ve got a giant, light-up Rudolph in the middle of the altar, people who go up to random flower waterers and complain about decorations are nuts. If people could just turn crazy off in order to make the world feel more comfortable , they would, but that just isn’t the nature of crazy. The people who are in a place where they are introspective enough to even consider how their actions and words look to others are not going to have their holiday ruined by a decoration anyway. (Unless you are seriously downplaying the ridiculousness of this decoration.) People who are capable of considering how their actions are or are not an evangelizing force for others are already doing their best not to be jerks. But when you demand the same of neurotic decoration Nazis, you are asking something of people that they are not capable of giving. What those of us who are fully functioning on a social level CAN do is realize that our faith can not be attached to whether or not other people are jerks or nutty. We don’t come to the Catholic Church for friendliness, fellowship, donut Sundays, or good manners. We come to the Catholic Church for Jesus, and because we believe it is the Church He established.
Some terribly judgemental terms used here… :confused:
 
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