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alcuin18
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Hello! I hope everyone is having a joyous Advent so far (it’s snowing in Georgia before January, we’re all freaked out!).
The reason for the title of this topic is I would like to get your wise opinions on a view I have which may or may not be doctrinal, and as I don’t want to believe in a heretical idea I would very much like to know if it’s plausible and acceptable. To me it seems open enough to be acceptable, but I’m not sure.
My theory is about Adam and Eve, Eden and the effects of original sin in the world. I certainly believe that humans live in a fallen world, one with death, sickness, evil, etc. because of sin, and that we inherit original sin through our flesh as the Church has always taught.
But, my theory is that the reason the world has sin in it, with death, predatory animals, catastrophes, diseases, etc. is because of the fall of Satan and the demons. In my view, after they fell from grace, they influenced the world as it was developing before humans were created and thus introduced sin into God’s innocent Creation. Accordingly, to me the reason Eden was necessary, as a separate, preserved garden, rather than humans just being created and living in the entire world, is to give us a sinless place to live in before we sinned ourselves. The world beyond Eden, in my view, was already fallen, but humanity didn’t experience it because we lived in Eden.
When we sinned, we chose death rather than God. Thus, in Genesis it doesn’t say Eden was destroyed; rather, Adam and Eve were ‘cast out’ of it - in my view, they forfeited the gift of a sinless world which God gave them and chose instead the world of the serpent (a predatory animal, mind) outside Eden. This is why we now live in a fallen world. Further, this is why Christ said He came into the world to destroy the ‘works of the Devil’ - thus perhaps connecting the sin of the world not only to Adam and Eve but to the Devil directly.
I would like to know two things: do you think this view is plausible according to Scripture, Tradition and reason; and is it heretical for me to hold this view? Is the official teaching that the entire world was like Eden before Adam and Eve sinned, and then the entire world fell into sin because of them? If so, I will gladly accept that.
God bless!
The reason for the title of this topic is I would like to get your wise opinions on a view I have which may or may not be doctrinal, and as I don’t want to believe in a heretical idea I would very much like to know if it’s plausible and acceptable. To me it seems open enough to be acceptable, but I’m not sure.
My theory is about Adam and Eve, Eden and the effects of original sin in the world. I certainly believe that humans live in a fallen world, one with death, sickness, evil, etc. because of sin, and that we inherit original sin through our flesh as the Church has always taught.
But, my theory is that the reason the world has sin in it, with death, predatory animals, catastrophes, diseases, etc. is because of the fall of Satan and the demons. In my view, after they fell from grace, they influenced the world as it was developing before humans were created and thus introduced sin into God’s innocent Creation. Accordingly, to me the reason Eden was necessary, as a separate, preserved garden, rather than humans just being created and living in the entire world, is to give us a sinless place to live in before we sinned ourselves. The world beyond Eden, in my view, was already fallen, but humanity didn’t experience it because we lived in Eden.
When we sinned, we chose death rather than God. Thus, in Genesis it doesn’t say Eden was destroyed; rather, Adam and Eve were ‘cast out’ of it - in my view, they forfeited the gift of a sinless world which God gave them and chose instead the world of the serpent (a predatory animal, mind) outside Eden. This is why we now live in a fallen world. Further, this is why Christ said He came into the world to destroy the ‘works of the Devil’ - thus perhaps connecting the sin of the world not only to Adam and Eve but to the Devil directly.
I would like to know two things: do you think this view is plausible according to Scripture, Tradition and reason; and is it heretical for me to hold this view? Is the official teaching that the entire world was like Eden before Adam and Eve sinned, and then the entire world fell into sin because of them? If so, I will gladly accept that.
God bless!
