A tree falls in the forrest and Commuion...everyone welcome

[ralphinal]

I hate the what if questions, but this one has me puzzled.

If, right after the words of consecration are said in your communion service, a fire breaks out in the church. The pastor helps usher everyone out, but leaves the now consecrated (or whatever it is called in your faith, please let us know the correct term) on the alter. Is Jesus sitting there alone? Does he return if beleivers come back in? What is the mechinism of this reversion to normal bread and wine, if there is one? How long does it take?

I know that some teach that there is a reversion after the service to normal bread and wine. What is that called? How long after does it occure? What is the scriptural basis for it?

Please, everyone be kind and nice, no bashing others. Too many threads on here become attacks. I want dialog, not diatribes.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

I’ll be most interested in reading the replies to your question. I remember reading how a priest in South America returned to a church that had been destroyed by rebels. In the wreckage he saw consecrated hosts that had been scattered when the gold vessels were stolen from the tabernacle. He crawled around picking them up and consuming them even though he was threatened by the guards that they would shoot him (they didn’t). This illustrates the strong feelings Catholics have about the Eucharist, that what appears to be bread is Jesus.

 

[Pious]

Is Jesus sitting there alone?

Jesus is never alone

Does he return if beleivers come back in?

He never leaves

What is the mechinism of this reversion to normal bread and wine, if there is one? How long does it take?

Once the bread and wine has been consecrated in to the body and blood of Our Saviour Jesus Christ it does not revert back to bread and wine.

The only times that I am aware of when they cease to be Jesus is when the appearance or the accidents of bread and wine are no longer, as in when we consume the communion and digestion has taken place.

I know that some teach that there is a reversion after the service to normal bread and wine. What is that called? How long after does it occure? What is the scriptural basis for it?

I have not heard of it in the Catholic Church, but someone may correct me if I am wrong.

 

[ralphinal]

Jesus is never alone

He never leaves

Once the bread and wine has been consecrated in to the body and blood of Our Saviour Jesus Christ it does not revert back to bread and wine.

The only times that I am aware of when they cease to be Jesus is when the appearance or the accidents of bread and wine are no longer, as in when we consume the communion and digestion has taken place.

I have not heard of it in the Catholic Church, but someone may correct me if I am wrong.

You are 100% correct on Catholic teaching in everything that you have said. This question is more for the Non-Catholic Christians who accept some level of Real Presence. O.S. and the other Methodists, for example, or any of our Lutherin Brethren.

 

[Pious]

You are 100% correct on Catholic teaching in everything that you have said. This question is more for the Non-Catholic Christians who accept some level of Real Presence. O.S. and the other Methodists, for example, or any of our Lutherin Brethren.

Wooho I’m a Catholic:dancing: :extrahappy:

Should have seen that it was in the non-Catholic forum; that’s what you get when logging on to CAF after doing the night shifts:yawn:

 

[Claire_from_DE]

You may not be getting replies because of the way you presented the question. IMO many non-Catholic Christians don’t think the bread becomes Jesus. But they believe that Jesus is really present and that they really receive him by doing this action that is mandated in the bible. So asking about the blessed bread apart from the action of taking and eating would not be meaningful to them.

 

[ralphinal]

You may not be getting replies because of the way you presented the question. IMO many non-Catholic Christians don’t think the bread becomes Jesus. But they believe that Jesus is really present and that they really receive him by doing this action that is mandated in the bible. So asking about the blessed bread apart from the action of taking and eating would not be meaningful to them.

Good point.