Abortion and Nuremberg

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Justice permits offenses to be pardoned if doing so would not endanger the public.
It also demands that severe examples be set so that others not be tempted to imitate the behaviour, lest the same happen to themselves (which means that it needs to seem likely that they would be punished).

So, even if it is impossible to jail every woman who has had an abortion, enough of them should be jailed that other women, thinking of abortion, choose not to do so in case they end up jailed, as well.

Of course, one of the legitimate uses of the death penalty is when it is not practical to put serious criminals in jail … 🤷
 
Of course, one of the legitimate uses of the death penalty is when it is not practical to put serious criminals in jail … 🤷
The condition is that there must be no other way to prevent further harm to society by the criminal.
 
The condition is that there must be no other way to prevent further harm to society by the criminal.
Further harm could result to society from a lack of punishment, or too lenient a punishment, not in that the woman herself would have more abortions (although multiple abortions certainly do happen) but in that other women would be encouraged to go ahead and have abortions, because they are not likely to be punished for it.

That’s actually how we ended up in the current situation, with more than three million Canadian children having been killed in abortions in the few years since it became legal. The lack of punishment has encouraged hundreds of thousands of women to go ahead and have abortions - so, clearly, it is necessary to restore the punishment, in order to reduce the number of abortions.
 
Further harm could result to society from a lack of punishment, or too lenient a punishment, not in that the woman herself would have more abortions (although multiple abortions certainly do happen) but in that other women would be encouraged to go ahead and have abortions, because they are not likely to be punished for it.

That’s actually how we ended up in the current situation, with more than three million Canadian children having been killed in abortions in the few years since it became legal. The lack of punishment has encouraged hundreds of thousands of women to go ahead and have abortions - so, clearly, it is necessary to restore the punishment, in order to reduce the number of abortions.
But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.
 
But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.
this is a huge disappointment, mon ami. first you were gung ho on punishing everyone involved in abortions after we came to power, now you’ve betrayed the Cause by going soft and saying retroactive punishment is not necessary.
 
Isn’t your entire premise to institute ex post hoc laws in order to retroactively punish those who performed abortions?
I was (as anyone not blinded by their own ideological leanings could see) talking specifically about doctors and politicians.
 
I was (as anyone not blinded by their own ideological leanings could see) talking specifically about doctors and politicians.
Brother, this simply will not do. Should we allow those women who had abortions to poison the minds of their daughters and granddaughters by telling them of the days when a pregnant woman could simply walk into a clinic and have the life within them terminated with no more thought nor care than gassing a stray dog? What about those technicians and nurses who facilitated the slaughter? Are they allowed to subvert the new order by digging up the sins of their mothers and fathers and incubating a mentality that is totally at odds with the pro-life government?

I must agree with Fairwinds…you are going soft. If we are to make laws that allow for the prosecution and imprisonment of those who facilitated abortion, then we must get them all. It most certainly is* necessary to retroactively punish.*
 
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