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So, justice is now determined by what is practical?I disagree. That would include the mothers, and it would simply be impractical to imprison all of them.
So, justice is now determined by what is practical?I disagree. That would include the mothers, and it would simply be impractical to imprison all of them.
Justice permits offenses to be pardoned if doing so would not endanger the public.So, justice is now determined by what is practical?![]()
It also demands that severe examples be set so that others not be tempted to imitate the behaviour, lest the same happen to themselves (which means that it needs to seem likely that they would be punished).Justice permits offenses to be pardoned if doing so would not endanger the public.
The condition is that there must be no other way to prevent further harm to society by the criminal.Of course, one of the legitimate uses of the death penalty is when it is not practical to put serious criminals in jail …![]()
Further harm could result to society from a lack of punishment, or too lenient a punishment, not in that the woman herself would have more abortions (although multiple abortions certainly do happen) but in that other women would be encouraged to go ahead and have abortions, because they are not likely to be punished for it.The condition is that there must be no other way to prevent further harm to society by the criminal.
But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.Further harm could result to society from a lack of punishment, or too lenient a punishment, not in that the woman herself would have more abortions (although multiple abortions certainly do happen) but in that other women would be encouraged to go ahead and have abortions, because they are not likely to be punished for it.
That’s actually how we ended up in the current situation, with more than three million Canadian children having been killed in abortions in the few years since it became legal. The lack of punishment has encouraged hundreds of thousands of women to go ahead and have abortions - so, clearly, it is necessary to restore the punishment, in order to reduce the number of abortions.
I think it’s good for the possibility to exist - it can act as a means to sober second thought.But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.
Isn’t your entire premise to institute ex post hoc laws in order to retroactively punish those who performed abortions?But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.
this is a huge disappointment, mon ami. first you were gung ho on punishing everyone involved in abortions after we came to power, now you’ve betrayed the Cause by going soft and saying retroactive punishment is not necessary.But it is not necessary to retroactively punish.
I was (as anyone not blinded by their own ideological leanings could see) talking specifically about doctors and politicians.Isn’t your entire premise to institute ex post hoc laws in order to retroactively punish those who performed abortions?
Brother, this simply will not do. Should we allow those women who had abortions to poison the minds of their daughters and granddaughters by telling them of the days when a pregnant woman could simply walk into a clinic and have the life within them terminated with no more thought nor care than gassing a stray dog? What about those technicians and nurses who facilitated the slaughter? Are they allowed to subvert the new order by digging up the sins of their mothers and fathers and incubating a mentality that is totally at odds with the pro-life government?I was (as anyone not blinded by their own ideological leanings could see) talking specifically about doctors and politicians.