Abortion does not raise risk of depression

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Oct 28, 2005

Claims that terminating an unwanted first pregnancy raises the risk of depression is called into question in a study published online by the BMJ today.

In fact, the authors suggest that abortion may be linked to a lower risk of depression through beneficial effects on education, income, and family size . . .continued here:

medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=32656
Note: found his BMJ (British Medical Journal) article from 2002:

Women who continue with unintended pregnancies are less depressed than those who abort
 
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David_Paul:
Medical News Today
Oct 28, 2005

Claims that terminating an unwanted first pregnancy raises the risk of depression is called into question in a study published online by the BMJ today.

In fact, the authors suggest that abortion may be linked to a lower risk of depression through beneficial effects on education, income, and family size . . .continued here:

medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=32656
Note: found his BMJ (British Medical Journal) article from 2002:

Women who continue with unintended pregnancies are less depressed than those who abort
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They are just trying to push abortion even more!!!:mad: My aunt had two abortion and has been a pain pill addict since!Why is that?My old best friend had one and she goes into states of depression every year because of it!My cousin had two and she became an atheist and is bitter.:nope:
 
My question is - who funded the study? If it’s a neutral party, then it could be credible…if they have some sort of agenda, then I wouldn’t take this study at face value.

Abortion has affected not only me personally, but many of my friends, and I can tell you from first-hand experience, and from my friend’s testimonies, depression DOES sink in. The feelings are sooo overwhelming, so devastating, no matter what the intention of the abortion was, that it sometimes takes years to get out of the guilt and the pain associated with it. I know one friend of mine who is still trying to deal with her abortion after nearly 20 years.

Please continue to pray for those who advocate this terrible crime to humanity, and hope that God may shed light into their hearts to turn away from this.

God Bless!
 
Except that the California Medicaid (Medi-Cal) study and Finland’s STAKES study, both records-based, show otherwise. I note that Russo et al make no reference to either of these studies when trying to discredit Reardon’s work.

For further reading on abortion and depression, see
life.org.nz/abortionmedicalkeyissuesdepression.htm
 
Eileen T:
Except that the California Medicaid (Medi-Cal) study and Finland’s STAKES study, both records-based, show otherwise. I note that Russo et al make no reference to either of these studies when trying to discredit Reardon’s work.

For further reading on abortion and depression, see
life.org.nz/abortionmedicalkeyissuesdepression.htm
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Eileen:

People should learn to see not only who funded the study, but WHO DID THE STUDY! Researcher Bias can invalidate the entire survey (most esp. if it’s a survey and not an experiment).

In a Survey of the research, one has to ask to look at, not only what the Researchers have included, but what studies they’ve excluded and why.

Anecdotally - In the 1980’s, I knew a woman who had 3 Abortions (most in the 70’s) who was often depressed. She was a sex-addict who used a lot of Marijuana and smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day.

I can’t tell you how everything was related, but she was an intelligent woman who probably needed a lot of therapy and spiritual healing.

I don’t anyone should have to suffer as she did.

Those of you who know my story know that I couldn’t do anything for her as I was as lost as she was then. Please pray for her.

In Christ, Michael
 
How could you not feel depressed afrer an abortion? I guess if you are COMPLETLY emotionless.
 
Anna's Mom:
How could you not feel depressed afrer an abortion? I guess if you are COMPLETLY emotionless.
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What comes first, the emotionless feeling and therefor the abortion, or the abortion and then the emotionless feeling.

Could anyone who has had a baby explain how a woman could have an abortion and not feel horrible for the rest of her life- without forgiveness from God through confession?

Some of the studies are bogus and not worth reading. They are rationalizing.
 
I find this difficult to believe.

I have a dear friend (neighbor actually) who had no elective abortions, but had 5 late term miscarriages. She carries around more pain and GUILT than anyone I know…truly does believe that there is something wrong with her that made her body a “baby killer”. I pray for her DAILY!

And as for current abortion…well, I get depressed by it. The terrible loss of innocent life…
 
Even if the study is valid (which I doubt), what does it prove? If a woman can kill her own child and not become depressed, this says more about the state of that woman’s conscience than it does about the morality of the act.
 
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BlindSheep:
Even if the study is valid (which I doubt), what does it prove? If a woman can kill her own child and not become depressed, this says more about the state of that woman’s conscience than it does about the morality of the act.
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I do not think so…there are many woman out there that think that if it (baby) can not survive outside of my womb it is really not murder etc. Hence they do not get depressed etc.
What I am trying to say is that not everyone thinks like a “Catholic” ,so to speak, That Life Begins at Conception…and these types of woman have no issues aborting a fetus/baby early in pregnancy.
 
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Karin:
I do not think so…there are many woman out there that think that if it (baby) can not survive outside of my womb it is really not murder etc. Hence they do not get depressed etc.
What I am trying to say is that not everyone thinks like a “Catholic” ,so to speak, That Life Begins at Conception…and these types of woman have no issues aborting a fetus/baby early in pregnancy.
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One does not have to be a Catholic to see the killing of a human being as immoral. Thinking “if it cannot survive outside my womb it really isn’t murder” is an illogical rationalization which a woman might use to justify her action; however, any woman educated enough to know she is killing an innocent human being (and I did not even use the term “murder”) *will *feel some type of depression or guilt, regardless of these types of intellectual gymnastics. If she doesn’t, her conscience is dead; everyone, regardless of religion, can intuit that it is wrong to kill an innocent person, unless they have become desensitized. This is what we refer to as “natural law”.
 
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BlindSheep:
One does not have to be a Catholic to see the killing of a human being as immoral. ".
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Agreed not arguing this point. I used the Catholic analogy because this is a Catholic Forum.
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BlindSheep:
Thinking “if it cannot survive outside my womb it really isn’t murder” is an illogical rationalization which a woman might use to justify her action".
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Have to disagree…many woman do not think the fetus/baby can be considered human (if it cannot survive outside my womb)…not matter how much education!
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BlindSheep:
however, any woman educated enough to know she is killing an innocent human being (and I did not even use the term “murder”) *will *feel some type of depression or guilt, regardless of these types of intellectual gymnastics. If she doesn’t, her conscience is dead; everyone, regardless of religion, can intuit that it is wrong to kill an innocent person, unless they have become desensitized. This is what we refer to as “natural law”.
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She wont feel depression or guilt becuase she does not view it as a human…that is the point I was trying to make.
 
Traditional Ang:
Eileen:

People should learn to see not only who funded the study, but WHO DID THE STUDY! Researcher Bias can invalidate the entire survey (most esp. if it’s a survey and not an experiment).

In a Survey of the research, one has to ask to look at, not only what the Researchers have included, but what studies they’ve excluded and why.
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I have done the research for the www.life.org.nz website on Suicide, Abortion & Euthanasia, so I understand research bias in this area. What I was trying to point out was that Russo (pro-choice) & the others totally excluded the records-based studies from * study. Those studies did not include interviews with abortive women.
Anecdotally - In the 1980’s, I knew a woman who had 3 Abortions (most in the 70’s) who was often depressed. She was a sex-addict who used a lot of Marijuana and smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day.
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I can’t tell you how everything was related, but she was an intelligent woman who probably needed a lot of therapy and spiritual healing.
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I have had quite a bit of experience in post abortion counselling so I totally agree with you. In fact, apart from those women who had attempted suicide, had suicidal ideations, depression etc, I had two who were convinced they were under a ‘curse’, one who suffered from psychosis and one who was under Mental Health Services and a total wreck.

On the other hand I met women who were totally cold and callous about what they had done and said it had no effect on them.

The shut down of emotions that led to the callousness was the effect although they didn’t recognise that. One young woman couldn’t bear to be anywhere near babies and very young children, avoided friends who had given birth, baby shops etc. After some intensive counselling she recovered and last year had a baby.

Thos women in the study may not feel bad now, but give them time…*
 
Just from my own experience, I find this study hard to believe. I have known three women personally who have had abortions. All had, according to society, very compelling reasons for divorce. One was borderline mentally retarded and became pregnant through rape. The Dr. advised abortion. Both she and her family suffered guilt over this abortion.

The second woman had an actual chamber missing from her heart(not valve, chamber) She was told by her dr that she would die before the baby was viable to live outside the womb. She had both an abortion and her tubes tied. Her family did not understand her resulting depression and she had to undergo therapy.

The third woman was 15 and on drugs. HEr father, a nurse, took her to the clinic without any discussion on his part. She was simply told that she was going to undergo an abortion and that was that. She was given no choice. She too, has expressed guilt.

I do know of one woman that had an abortion without guilt. I do not know her story personally. She worked with my hubby and bragged to him that she felt no guilt over her abortion. Her abortion was done simply to ease her life after divorcing from her husband,not because she had any serious problems like rape or a life threatening illness.(Not that I am justifying abortion in those instances)
 
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Karin:
Have to disagree…many woman do not think the fetus/baby can be considered human (if it cannot survive outside my womb)…not matter how much education!

She wont feel depression or guilt becuase she does not view it as a human…that is the point I was trying to make.
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Human is a biological term; I think most women are aware that the embryo they are carrying is a member of the human species, with human DNA. Humanity has nothing to do with dependence or independence (survival outside the womb); I think when people use this particular argument they are not denying the humanity of the unborn child, but rather arguing that its dependence on the mother gives the mother the right to end its life by withdrawing this support, as in the “violinist argument”. If a woman believes this, she believe she is doing nothing wrong intellectually; however, emotionally, most sensitive people would still recoil.
I do believe, however, that there are many women out there who are ignorant about reproduction and believe the clinic counselors who tell them “it’s just a blob of tissue” or “the products of conception”, and I wouldn’t be surprised if these women didn’t feel depressed.
 
From the Lifesites website report that abcdefg linked:

“Dr. David Reardon, whose research inspired this subsequent study, told LifeSiteNews.com that this new look at statistics from the US National Longitudinal Survey of Youth is misleading and inaccurate because firstly, they eliminated women who originally wanted to carry their children to term but then did not; and secondly, the new research added into the group women who subsequently went on to have other abortions.”

According to another researcher who studied depression following abortion, this new study selected specifically *which *women who had abortions they would include in the research. As I read the lifesites article, I think the study excluded those who may have been at greatest risk for depression (women who originally wanted to carry to term), and added women probably less likely to have depression since they dealt with their abortion well enough to have more. This study apparently was not done on a random sampling of post-abortive women.
 
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Karin:
Have to disagree…many woman do not think the fetus/baby can be considered human (if it cannot survive outside my womb)…not matter how much education!
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Karin:

Mothers don’t education, except to lose their tenderness for the children in their wombs and to forget their children. The Scripture says, *“Can a mother forget her infant, be without tenderness for the child of her womb? Even should she forget, I will never forget you. See, upon the palms of my hands I have written your name;” **Isaiah 49:15-16 NAB. ***

Several prophets have stated that mothers forgetting their infants, becoming without tenderness for the children in their wombs, is one of the signs of the “Last Days” or the “End of Days”. If what you’re saying is correct, we’re in for one very rough ride.
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Karin:
She wont feel depression or guilt becuase she does not view it as a human…that is the point I was trying to make.
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The woman I knew had bought the NARAL, NOW & PP line hook, line and sinker, and that didn’t keep her from feeling depressed and having the other problems mentioned in my post.

What we forget is that God’s Law is written on our hearts and that as much as these groups try to bury it with their “education programs”, that Law has ways of speaking to us and letting us know when we have done things that are wrong (that’s often called “Conviction”).

I think we need to pray, not that the women and their Abortionists feel less guilty, but that they come under Conviction from the Holy Spirit and repent of their abortions and turn to God for his mercy, love, forgiveness and heaing.

The effect of women who’ve repented of their Abortions and then gone public has been amazing, but one has to wonder just what would happen if a couple of Abortionists repented and went public!

Blessed are they who defend the Weak and the Powerless, Michael
 
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gardenswithkids:
From the Lifesites website report that abcdefg linked:

“Dr. David Reardon, whose research inspired this subsequent study, told LifeSiteNews.com that this new look at statistics from the US National Longitudinal Survey of Youth is misleading and inaccurate because firstly, they eliminated women who originally wanted to carry their children to term but then did not; and secondly, the new research added into the group women who subsequently went on to have other abortions.”

According to another researcher who studied depression following abortion, this new study selected specifically *which *women who had abortions they would include in the research. As I read the lifesites article, I think the study excluded those who may have been at greatest risk for depression (women who originally wanted to carry to term), and added women probably less likely to have depression since they dealt with their abortion well enough to have more. This study apparently was not done on a random sampling of post-abortive women.
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gardenswithkids:

And we were expecting honest science from people pushing the Pro-Abortion Agenda?!

Good find, Thank you for the Information on the “Experimental Methods” used by the people who did this “Survey”. Most people don’t understand how a researcher can manipulate the results by “cherry-picking” the sample.

In this case, it sounds like that’s what happened here. the researchers decided what results they wanted and excluded those groups from their sample which would tend to keep them from getting those results.

We have two surveys that were cited (California Medicaid (Medi-Cal) study and Finland’s STAKES study) which included ALL women who had abortions. These studies BOTH came up with results which contradict those these “researchers” got using a “Cherry Picked” Sample.

Those two studies were honest science, because they used samples which were representative of the general population. The one with the “Cherry-Picked” Sample wasn’t, because it violated the most basic rule of sample creation - that sample never could have represented the general population. Therefore, that study never could be valid.

I doesn’t matter whom they got to publish their pack of lies and distortions. The study’s INVALID because the sample will never be representative of the general population of women having Abortions! That means the study isn’t even worth the paper it’s printed on. Except as as display of researcher bias and Hubris, it’s worthless!

Blessed are they who act to protect the Innocent, Michael
 
Traditional Ang:
Eileen:

People should learn to see not only who funded the study, but WHO DID THE STUDY! Researcher Bias can invalidate the entire survey (most esp. if it’s a survey and not an experiment).

In a Survey of the research, one has to ask to look at, not only what the Researchers have included, but what studies they’ve excluded and why.

In Christ, Michael
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Looks like at least one of the authors of the study is a feminist. We all know studies can go the way we want.

“Nancy Russo, Faculty Womens Association, urged those participating in the discussion to stay focused on the key issue of accountability, that the climate for women will not change unless administrators will be held accountable”
66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:JqPJV8A6lHgJ:aspin.asu.edu/csw/Minutes2002.03/021303.min.CSW.doc+%22Nancy+Russo%22&hl=en&start=6
 
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