About Feeding Tubes

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It’s wrong to deprive nutrition and hydration to a dying, comatose person with no obvious prospects of recovery, right? I mean, for as long as the human body can digest food and water, even though a person is a dying comatose with no hope of recovery, it’s still wrong to deny him or her those, right?
 
Yes it is wrong,if the person only needs a feeding tube to survive then the person is not dying.God bless
 
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preyoflove:
It’s wrong to deprive nutrition and hydration to a dying, comatose person with no obvious prospects of recovery, right? I mean, for as long as the human body can digest food and water, even though a person is a dying comatose with no hope of recovery, it’s still wrong to deny him or her those, right?
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If you are actually in this situation with a person for whom you are responsible, please contact a Priest.

I am quite certain you are not obligated to have a tube inserted, but I believe each case must be individually evaluated. Perhaps you might want to contact the ethics committee in a Catholic Hospital?
 
Food and hydration can only be withheld from a patient in the case of imminent death or when not withholding food and hydration leads to more serious medical complications.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
I don’t think there can be a general ruls in a situation with so many possible exceptions. I certainly would not want to make such a difficult decision without spiritual, legal and moral guidance, and certainly the wishes of the patient must be considered.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Yes it is wrong,if the person only needs a feeding tube to survive then the person is not dying.God bless
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Lisa, Our parish priest said that the church teaches that a feeding tube is an extraordinary means of life support, and the person or the family is not obligated to do so, (Like the Terri case). Do you know what the ACTUAL church teaching is? He is sort of a liberal priest, and he has said some things previously that I don’t agree with.
 
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davy39:
Lisa, Our parish priest said that the church teaches that a feeding tube is an extraordinary means of life support, and the person or the family is not obligated to do so, (Like the Terri case). Do you know what the ACTUAL church teaching is? He is sort of a liberal priest, and he has said some things previously that I don’t agree with.
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vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040320_congress-fiamc_en.html
Here you go:thumbsup:
 
Lisa, Our parish priest said that the church teaches that a feeding tube is an extraordinary means of life support, and the person or the family is not obligated to do so, (Like the Terri case). Do you know what the ACTUAL church teaching is? He is sort of a liberal priest, and he has said some things previously that I don’t agree with.
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The US Conference of bishops says extraordinary and no obligation. The Vatican says ordinary and obligatory.
 
This is a very controversial subject. As was the war in Iraq.

Be very careful what you say here, especially about the USCCB.
 
I myself go with the Vatican. I’m a new Catholic so I guess I will have to make sure I look to make sure what the US teaches is what Rome teaches.

food and water are not extraordinary.
 
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Mysty101:
This is a very controversial subject. As was the war in Iraq.

Be very careful what you say here, especially about the USCCB.
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I have to take what the Pope says seriously if the Bishops chose not to that they will answer for.The Pope had a feeding tube before he passed actions speak even louder than words.🙂 If medicine is supposed to help people to live good,so be it,if it is going to be denied to those deemed unworthy,WATCH OUT!:eek:
 
Be very careful what you say here, especially about the USCCB.
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Sorry, I’m not choosing bishops from a country on a different continent over the successor of Peter.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I have to take what the Pope says seriously if the Bishops chose not to that they will answer for.The Pope had a feeding tube before he passed actions speak even louder than words.🙂 If medicine is supposed to help people to live good,so be it,if it is going to be denied to those deemed unworthy,WATCH OUT!:eek:
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I’m stunned by the USCCB’s comments. Would they say the same thing about air? My great aunt had multiple bouts with pneumonia and needed to be on oxygen. MANY people are on oxygen and can live relatively normal lives as long as they have their cannister with them. So we should deny air to a person who needs it? Sheesh! How much different is this than food and water? It seems that the idea of cutting a hole to insert the tube is the big stickler. Yet wouldn’t these same bishops allow a tracheotomy? I think the bishops need to get a little more conversant with various medical procedures before making such pronouncements. They seem to be contradicting themselves.

Lisa N
 
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chevalier:
Sorry, I’m not choosing bishops from a country on a different continent over the successor of Peter.
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I sincerely hope you are never in this difficult position (especially if you are the sole caretaker–anyone could think differently if there was an insurance or state funded home caring for the person in a PVS.) As I said there is no set rule for this heart wrenching situation.

(I am a hero and fight for Right to Life—afterall, I do visit with someone in a PVS who is being cared for by someone else)
 
Lisa N:
I’m stunned by the USCCB’s comments. Would they say the same thing about air? My great aunt had multiple bouts with pneumonia and needed to be on oxygen. MANY people are on oxygen and can live relatively normal lives as long as they have their cannister with them. So we should deny air to a person who needs it? Sheesh! How much different is this than food and water? It seems that the idea of cutting a hole to insert the tube is the big stickler. Yet wouldn’t these same bishops allow a tracheotomy? I think the bishops need to get a little more conversant with various medical procedures before making such pronouncements. They seem to be contradicting themselves.

Lisa N
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MANY people are on oxygen and can live relatively normal lives as long as they have their cannister with them.

ah yes—the operative phrase–relatively normal lives –

I wouldn’t consider PVS “relatively normal lives”
 
Let me get this straight—The bishops " need to get a little more conversant with various medical procedures", but you know it all?

As I said–I would be careful about slamming the USCCB. Maybe some need to get a little more conversant with respect for their shepherds.
 
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Mysty101:
MANY people are on oxygen and can live relatively normal lives as long as they have their cannister with them.

ah yes—the operative phrase–relatively normal lives –

I wouldn’t consider PVS “relatively normal lives”
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Since when do we have the cahonas to proclaim what is “normal”?My mom had MS before she died, shame on you:tsktsk: What is “normal”?What makes a life a non-life?Do you have the ability to see beyond the vale of Terri Schiavo?Who by the way there is alot of contreversy surrounding whether she was PVS or not.
 
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Mysty101:
Let me get this straight—The bishops " need to get a little more conversant with various medical procedures", but you know it all?

As I said–I would be careful about slamming the USCCB. Maybe some need to get a little more conversant with respect for their shepherds.
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So are saying they shouldn’t listen to the Pope because the are American Bishops?There are Bishops that are faithful to Rome here.Of course they are the ones slammed by everybody in the “land of the free”😦
 
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