Acceptance by Church

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I’m going to ask this question one last time, I still haven’t gotten an answer.
If the Church on Earth won’t accept someone, won’t Catechize, won’t allow someone to be in Communion with the true Church.
Then in light of scripture, how is someone to receive absolution thru the Sacrament of Confession. And then take Holy Communion?
 
I’m going to ask this question one last time, I still haven’t gotten an answer.
If the Church on Earth won’t accept someone, won’t Catechize, won’t allow someone to be in Communion with the true Church.
Then in light of scripture, how is someone to receive absolution thru the Sacrament of Confession. And then take Holy Communion?
Your key word is IF…IF the Church…

The Church does accept people, catechize them, and allow them to be in communion. So your question is moot.

If someone wants to receive absolution through the sacrament of Reconciliation and then receive communion, they would start by talking with their pastor or RCIA director and find out how to get started on the process.
 
I’m going to ask this question one last time, I still haven’t gotten an answer.
If the Church on Earth won’t accept someone, won’t Catechize, won’t allow someone to be in Communion with the true Church.
Then in light of scripture, how is someone to receive absolution thru the Sacrament of Confession. And then take Holy Communion?
the Church accepts everyone who is sincere in seeking full communion or baptism. If that person is not sincere–refuses to work toward true conversion, then no, conversion is not possible at least at this time. It sounds very much if there is a personal story hear, not a hypothetical case. Care to share some real details with all the story just not the parts that make a particular parish or priest look bad?
 
I’m going to ask this question one last time, I still haven’t gotten an answer.
If the Church on Earth won’t accept someone, won’t Catechize, won’t allow someone to be in Communion with the true Church.
Then in light of scripture, how is someone to receive absolution thru the Sacrament of Confession. And then take Holy Communion?
I guess I must plead ignorance because I’m really not sure what you are trying to ask here.
I read through your other question and the responses, and thought they provided good answers.

If the church, did not accept a candidate it would be because the person showed themeselves to be such a poor, recalcitrant, unrepentant, unconverted person that it is clear that allowing them access ot Communion would bring condemnation on themselves and on the person/people condoning such an acceptance.

Having said the above, it is teh policy of The Church to assume the good nitentions of anyone making application to The Church for membership. Thus the odds of a person being rejected is so small as to be non-existant.

Is there a particular situation you have in mind??

Peace
James
 
Um, who do you know that has been rejected from joining the Church?
It is typically the other way around…
 
I’m going to ask this question one last time, I still haven’t gotten an answer.
If the Church on Earth won’t accept someone, won’t Catechize, won’t allow someone to be in Communion with the true Church.
Then in light of scripture, how is someone to receive absolution thru the Sacrament of Confession. And then take Holy Communion?
The Church has no say in who is in communion, anyone can choose to be in communion and obtain reconciliation (Sacrament of Confession). Which is also a misnomer as those in communion are not in confession, confession is used to return to communion. Isolated people can reconcile without the church but that has to be through a lack of church presences verses a decision to avoid the Church.
 
Great answers finally.
So let me get this straight, according to the Church I’m an unrepentant sinner who is never going to learn or accept the gift of the Holy Spirit. (The sin that dooms you forever).

And from what I learned in RCIA, God is punshing me every day and I should shut up and take it because suffering your entire life is good (especially when God takes everything and everyone from you, yay!).

This must be why the Parish could have cared less about me or my family, but kept asking for hundreds of dollars in donations.

No thanks, goodbye church and goodbye CA’s.
 
Great answers finally.
So let me get this straight, according to the Church I’m an unrepentant sinner who is never going to learn or accept the gift of the Holy Spirit. (The sin that dooms you forever).

And from what I learned in RCIA, God is punshing me every day and I should shut up and take it because suffering your entire life is good (especially when God takes everything and everyone from you, yay!).

This must be why the Parish could have cared less about me or my family, but kept asking for hundreds of dollars in donations.

No thanks, goodbye church and goodbye CA’s.
Heavenly Father,
You rchild blueSteel is obviously in deep distress and we do not know why.
Please send Your peace upon BlueSteel that his anger will dissipate and the fullness of Your Love will soften his heart.
In Christ’s name I ask this.
Amen

Peace
James
 
Great answers finally.
So let me get this straight, according to the Church I’m an unrepentant sinner who is never going to learn or accept the gift of the Holy Spirit. (The sin that dooms you forever).

And from what I learned in RCIA, God is punshing me every day and I should shut up and take it because suffering your entire life is good (especially when God takes everything and everyone from you, yay!).

This must be why the Parish could have cared less about me or my family, but kept asking for hundreds of dollars in donations.

No thanks, goodbye church and goodbye CA’s.
It sounds like you have a personal story about a personal grievance about some indviduals in your parish, not about The Universal Catholic Church. You do not care to share the details of that grievance, your choice, so we cannot offer any help.

Unless your bishop told you that you are an unrecalcitrant sinner who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit–that is you refuse to accept God’s forgiveness-- no, The Catholic Church has not said this about you.

God’s grace is there for you, his forgiveness is there for you, all you have to do is accept it, we cannot shove it down your throat, or force you to accept God’s love and mercy. We can however pray for you continually which we are doing and will do, whether you choose to enter a church or leave it.

I refuse to believe anyone connected with RCIA told you that God is punishing you everyday and you should shut up and accept it and donate hundreds of dollars to the Church. If they did they are misrepresenting Church teaching and should be reported to the bishop, but my instinct tells me you have deliberately misinterpreted and misstated what you were told. If you are asking for help, tell us what you need, and we will try to help. But if you don’t want help, you do have our prayers, whether you want them or not, you have them.
 
Membership in a church or any organization normally often has entrace qualifications. You cannot be given a seniors discount if your 30 years old. You have to meet the qualifications.

To become a Catholic you must meet the minimum criteria for entrance. The membership is not a right or is there a right for anyone to recieve Holy Communion. There is criteria for reception. Must be Catholic and in a state of grace and past the age of reason able comprehend that we recognise the true presence.
 
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