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I don’t have a deep understanding of the recent political history of the Anglican Communion, but I think it is premature to say that ACNA will be recognized. The AC seems to have a tradition of recognizing only one national church in each country and in the US, it has been The Episcopal Church.

Despite the recent resolutions passed at their national convention, The Episcopal Church hasn’t actually ordained gay clergy or bishops since Bishop Robinson. I think the status quo, however shaky, is going to hold until such things happen.
 
Maybe.

More to the point, will the Anglican Communion recognize the ACNA, and of so, in what manner?

GKC
To me it seems that most of the Anglican Communion has already recognized the ACNA. I see the Episcopal Church leaving the Anglican communion completely, and the ACNA taking it’s place. If they would stop ordaining women, and pretty much agree to what Metropolitan Jonah said from the Orthodox Church of North America. Than the Roman Catholic Church may begin having a dialogue with the ACNA as well.
 
To me it seems that most of the Anglican Communion has already recognized the ACNA. I see the Episcopal Church leaving the Anglican communion completely, and the ACNA taking it’s place. If they would stop ordaining women, and pretty much agree to what Metropolitan Jonah said from the Orthodox Church of North America. Than the Roman Catholic Church may begin having a dialogue with the ACNA as well.
The AC will have to eventually make a corporate decision on recognition. The current seismic upheavals in Anglicanism are unparalleled. Nothing to compare it to. Uncharted territory. The only generalization possible is that it will take place in slow motion. This particular crisis dates back to Resolution 1.10, from Lambeth 98, and has been maturing for 11 years.

If the RCC does start some form of ARCIC dialogue with the ACNA, they should send copies of Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, first.

GKC
 
They have? :confused:

How many provinces have recognized ACNA?
None, officially. Some have sent good wishes, etc, including diocese and organizations in the CoE, but recognition, for the Communion, would come corporately.

GKC
 
I think TEC is poised to launch it’s own communion (it already has overseas components), although in reality it is declining in membership and should get a bit smaller before it stabilizes. The more it reduces in size, the more it will need, and look for a partner.

It could be that it will eventually merge with some other mainline denomination. The most likely candidate seems to be the ELCA, with which it has already been making some kind of arrangements for joint consecrations or joint ordinations.

TEC will morph into something new over time. Connections with the Anglican Communion will weaken. The whole communion could morph into something new, it may need a name change.

I think ACNA, as small as it now is, will grow. It does not need to be recognized by the Archbishop of Canterbury if it is recognized by the other major churches in the communion. It could be recognized alongside TEC, or it may even replace it.

What will happen to the Church of England? I think it will eventually become completely disestablished and it could bust up into two or three parts. The Lambeth conferences might become just a memory.

Who knows… perhaps some day the Westminster Abbey will see Benedictines come back. It is a Royal Peculiar, so anything is possible.
 
I don’t have a deep understanding of the recent political history of the Anglican Communion, but I think it is premature to say that ACNA will be recognized. The AC seems to have a tradition of recognizing only one national church in each country and in the US, it has been The Episcopal Church.

Despite the recent resolutions passed at their national convention, The Episcopal Church hasn’t actually ordained gay clergy or bishops since Bishop Robinson. I think the status quo, however shaky, is going to hold until such things happen.
I disagree, Dale. I think the Anglican Communion will indeed recognize the ACNA. If they don’t, they risk alienating many bishops worldwide who already personally endorse the new province. Men like Gregory Venables, who is the Archbishop of the Southern Cone, Orombi, Akinola, and a whole list of high-profile bishops and archbishops endorse ACNA personally but like GKC said, it is a corporate acceptance that must unfold. Rowan Williams is angry at what transpired at Anaheim and the TEC is steadily drawing the ire of many parts of the communion, alienating themselves. The ACNA has so many groups that came together to form it like CANA, AMIA, and several big dioceses with high-profile, well-respected bishops like Jack Iker, Schofield, Duncan, Ackerman (retired), and it drew endorsements from guys like Metropolitan Jonah and Rick Warren, etc.

I think the AC has no choice but to endorse them. However, my question honestly is WHY AND WHO CARES if the Anglican Communion doesn’t? Why does ACNA want the acceptance of the communion? Rowan Williams is the laughing stock of most of these conservative bishops. The Church of England allows women priests and bishops and is soft on the gay issue. Everyone knows that. They have been a liberal entity with little evangelism or drive/motivation for the last fifty years. The office of the ABC is a figurehead and a poor one at that in the last twenty years. The only reason they’re seeking such acceptance is tradition and the feeling that they can’t exist without this relationship to the ABC…In so many ways the ABC is a clone of the TEC just not quite as far gone. I just don’t see why ACNA doesn’t just exist, be content to exist, and enter into relationships with provinces with which it sees eye to eye. To heck with the Anglican Communion and the need to be accepted into it?🤷
 
I could tell that PECUSA (as it was called in the 70’s) would split and frazzle.

That’s why I embraced Orthodox in 72. I could tell what was coming.
 
I disagree, Dale. I think the Anglican Communion will indeed recognize the ACNA. If they don’t, they risk alienating many bishops worldwide who already personally endorse the new province. Men like Gregory Venables, who is the Archbishop of the Southern Cone, Orombi, Akinola, and a whole list of high-profile bishops and archbishops endorse ACNA personally but like GKC said, it is a corporate acceptance that must unfold. Rowan Williams is angry at what transpired at Anaheim and the TEC is steadily drawing the ire of many parts of the communion, alienating themselves. The ACNA has so many groups that came together to form it like CANA, AMIA, and several big dioceses with high-profile, well-respected bishops like Jack Iker, Schofield, Duncan, Ackerman (retired), and it drew endorsements from guys like Metropolitan Jonah and Rick Warren, etc.

I think the AC has no choice but to endorse them. However, my question honestly is WHY AND WHO CARES if the Anglican Communion doesn’t? Why does ACNA want the acceptance of the communion? Rowan Williams is the laughing stock of most of these conservative bishops. The Church of England allows women priests and bishops and is soft on the gay issue. Everyone knows that. They have been a liberal entity with little evangelism or drive/motivation for the last fifty years. The office of the ABC is a figurehead and a poor one at that in the last twenty years. The only reason they’re seeking such acceptance is tradition and the feeling that they can’t exist without this relationship to the ABC…In so many ways the ABC is a clone of the TEC just not quite as far gone. I just don’t see why ACNA doesn’t just exist, be content to exist, and enter into relationships with provinces with which it sees eye to eye. To heck with the Anglican Communion and the need to be accepted into it?🤷
This is a very good post. I agree with what you are saying. I would like to add that I do believe that the AC will eventually recognze the ACNA. The only thing I can possibly think of is the issue of women’s ordination maybe being a small bump in the road. There are still women who are priests in ACNA parishes. As for TEC, I believe that eventually they will be the splinter group forming their own new path. There just isn’t any orthodoxy there anymore.
 
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