Advice - I'm taking an icon writing course next week

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I’ve signed up to an introduction to ikonography and ikon writing course next week. It takes place in a secular art college, so I guess the focus will be largely on the historical and technical aspects of creating an ikon. We do get to try writing one ourselves though, so I was wondering, are there any prayers, traditions or preparations that usually go with the practice of ikon writing?

Many thanks in advance for your help.
 
I’ve signed up to an introduction to ikonography and ikon writing course next week. It takes place in a secular art college, so I guess the focus will be largely on the historical and technical aspects of creating an ikon. We do get to try writing one ourselves though, so I was wondering, are there any prayers, traditions or preparations that usually go with the practice of ikon writing?

Many thanks in advance for your help.
To start with, I’d forget the “writing” an ikon thing. Most of the ikonographers I know, including a couple Master ikonographers that I’ve studied with, refer to themselves as painting an ikon.

This “writing” seems to be a thing developed by non-Eastern Christians think it’s “kewl”.

I’d also suggest forgetting any formal art training you’ve already had. This is going to be different than anything you may have studied before.

I like to paint special intention into my ikons; remembering people who may be in need of prayer or people who are close to you.

If you’re going to a secular college, you probably won’t be doing much prayer. I like to use the Jesus prayer when I paint, it works very well with brush strokes and breathing and things like that.

Each ikonographer teaches in his/her own style. Some are very prayer oriented, some are not in the same manner that some ikonographers are very good teachers and some are very poor teachers.

Do you know what medium you’ll be using?

I can give you a few websites to look at various styles of ikons included a couple of the ikonographers that I’ve studied with.

I’d also recommend following what the instructor has to say and doing what he/she says even if it doesn’t sound right to you.

But above all, let go and let God paint your ikon…

hope this helps…
 
Do you know anything about your professor? Your class could be very different if it is a new-agey Episcopalian or an orthodox Eastern Christian. If it isn’t the latter, I’d be inclined to get some guidance from someone who falls in that category to supplement.
 
Thanks for the advice. I don’t know who the teacher is going to be, not sure they’re even religious at all, though I guess they must at least have an interest. I also don’t really have any formal artistic training in my past - I just want to try something new, something creative.

I like the advice on using the Jesus prayer. Any other prayers for preparation or guidance in icon writing?

Not sure about the materials, though I understand some of the paints are egg-based in some way?
 
I like the advice on using the Jesus prayer. Any other prayers for preparation or guidance in icon writing?

Not sure about the materials, though I understand some of the paints are egg-based in some way?
There are some ikonographers who use the egg tempera technique and some who use acryllics. You’ll get the whole spiel of how egg tempera is the “traditional” way, well, encaustic was the traditional way and then they moved to egg tempera and now there is a whole list of Master ikonographers who use acryllics.

I usually keep a small ikon of St. Andre Rublev close to me when I paint an ikon. You can also have an ikon of St. Luke, who Holy Tradition tell us, painted the 1st ikon of the Mother of God hold the Child Jesus. I usually make a small prayer asking for their guidance and help while I’m painting. You can pray to the saint whose likeness you are painting.

Hope this helps…
 
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This “writing” seems to be a thing developed by non-Eastern Christians think it’s “kewl”.**

The Greek verb “grafeo” means both “paint” and “write.”
 
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This “writing” seems to be a thing developed by non-Eastern Christians think it’s “kewl”.**

The Greek verb “grafeo” means both “paint” and “write.”
And when I spoke with an Armenian ikonographer and asked him if he wrote ikons, he said “no, I paint them”. The same with a Russian Master I studied with and also a Greek Master from Washington,DC, they all say they paint ikons they do not write them…😃
 
Do I paint photos or do I write them when I take a photograph? Neither paint nor write makes sense in English. Graphia is translated from Greek into English in context. The context of iconography is painting. Since the Greek means painting or writing, it makes far more sense to say I *paint *an icon than it does to say I *take *a photograph. If we can say the latter, I don’t see why there would be any controversy over the former.
 
Thanks for all the advice. Much appreciated. I didn’t realise the writing/painting thing was such an issue. I don’t really care one way or another what terminology I use, hope I didn’t offend anybody’s sensitivities.
 
We are happy to announce our own Iconography Workshops in July - August 2010!

Locations this time are both on the East Coast - Jordanville (NY) and Saint Mary’s City MD (slightly less than a two hour drive from Washington, DC and Baltimore).

The groups are limited to 10-12 students. We plan, as before, 5.5 consecutive days. During this workshop we will dedicate very serious and careful attention to the face painting - the main part of the icon and main thing for every iconographer. So, we have chosen the icon of Mandilion as the model for the workshop. As always, the workshop will combine practice and theory with some new informational lectures with slideshows.

Detailed information about the workshop, reservation and online deposit payment are availabe at our web-site at a special page - sacredmurals.com/gallery/index.php?p=pages&title=iconography_workshops_summer_2010

With warmest regards and best greetings for Your creative works!

Philip Davydov
sacredmurals.com
 
Do I paint photos or do I write them when I take a photograph? Neither paint nor write makes sense in English. Graphia is translated from Greek into English in context. The context of iconography is painting. Since the Greek means painting or writing, it makes far more sense to say I *paint *an icon than it does to say I *take *a photograph. If we can say the latter, I don’t see why there would be any controversy over the former.
Then you can just as well ‘write’ pornography…
 
I’ve signed up to an introduction to ikonography and ikon writing course next week. It takes place in a secular art college, so I guess the focus will be largely on the historical and technical aspects of creating an ikon. We do get to try writing one ourselves though, so I was wondering, are there any prayers, traditions or preparations that usually go with the practice of ikon writing?
I have to say this makes me squirm. I’m not sure why an orthodox (Orthodox or Catholic) Iconographer would teach the writing/painting (I won’t touch that verb issue) of Holy Icons in a secular college. Even teaching the “historical and technical aspects” of Holy Icons in a secular college, I’d want to know that the iconographer was orthodox and would be placing that teaching within the sacramental liturgical world view they are part of.

Patchunky and Philip Davydov as iconographers are in a better position than I am to address that. I’m only a humble Christian who considers our Holy Icons a gift from God. I have taken a class in Icons, which offered instruction in writing/painting them in a separate class the following week which I did not attend. The class was at the Dominican School of Philosophy and Theology and was taught by a priest iconographer.
 
Then you can just as well ‘write’ pornography…
I am not certain of English but I am sure Patchunky is correct - he is excellent ikonographer and he is English-speaking Ukrainian.

Problem is probable also like in Greek that in Ukrainian and Russian there is only word pisati which can be to write or to paint, such as zhivopisat’, ikonopisat’ to paint with oils or to paint ikon. I have heard English speakers try to translate painter in English, thinking they are designating a person who is an artist (in Russian is zhivopisets) - but they call him malyar, (малювати in Ukrainian) which is one who paints walls or houses. So confusion exists on both sides. We do have words meaning to color (krasit’) or to design a picture (risovat’) but painting is for us what is done by a worker or constructionist, not an artist.

But in any case, I recommend follow advice of Patchunky - he will not lead you in wrong way! Even how to say in English - **писати икону.
Such sait as Phillip Davydov from SPb is very, very beautiful. You would like to study at such a place, I think. He and Patchunky should have interesting ideas to talk.
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The plenary sessions of the Orientale Lumen conference OL XI – Icons: Expressions of Our Faith featuring complete videos of presentations by Metropolitan Kallistos of Diokleia, Father Andrej Chirovsky, Metropolitan Gerasimos, Professor Richard Schneider are available at OLTV. 👍 I’d encourage you to watch these presentations before you take the art class at the secular college.
the writing/painting (I won’t touch that verb issue)
I do think I have seen that Archimandrite Robert Taft was not in favor of the verb “writing”. I do not know what verb he prefers. Maybe someone knows of where he’s spoken of that.
 
Thank You very much for the messages!
I have been strugglying to myself - which word to use, and finally now I got it!
Actually, english paintig is more complex, then russian красить, (even if it is never used for a respectful description). So, artists use pisat’ - писать , - word WRITE because they create the image in a complex way - they draw it and they paint it…

As for the Iconoraphy, I think, that WRITING was introduced by those, who wished to bring exact terms from russian, not understanding local context.
I was many times critisized for using the word Iconography, even in Catholic University of Melbourne the professor of SacredArt Theory sayed, that the word **iconography **is better for subjects, not images… But the problem is again - introducing the terms without translating them correctly…
So, as I see now, writers and scientists use this word to name the Verbal STUDY of icons. But I totally agree with you, - “graph” means writing-painting-drawing, and instead of ICONOGRAPHY for their verbal things they should use ICONOLOGY…

**ICONOGRAPHY **forever!!!
 
DL, you also asked for advice in how to pray before drawing/paintitng the icon. Not that I can tell you much there, but I read in a book on icons that the custom was to pray in front of an icon of the Transfiguration, in order that in looking at the icon that’s going to be done one could perceive God’s presence through it. Correct?
As for the idea of “writing” an icon, I think it came up from the saying that with a number of illeterate people the icons might be the only way they could “read” the Scriptures (other than listening to the Scripture readings at the Divine Liturgy, of course). Maybe my recollection is somehow approximate, but I think that was the idea…
 
DL, you also asked for advice in how to pray before drawing/paintitng the icon. Not that I can tell you much there, but I read in a book on icons that the custom was to pray in front of an icon of the Transfiguration, in order that in looking at the icon that’s going to be done one could perceive God’s presence through it. Correct?
As for the idea of “writing” an icon, I think it came up from the saying that with a number of illeterate people the icons might be the only way they could “read” the Scriptures (other than listening to the Scripture readings at the Divine Liturgy, of course). Maybe my recollection is somehow approximate, but I think that was the idea…
I was surprised not to find any post mentioning praying in front of the icon of the Transfiguration, which is why I came up with this post…
 
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