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I am in the process of coming back to the Catholic faith. My husband is a Protestant and does not like my decision.

How should I procede?
How do I keep the peace at home?
 
Mixed-faith households can be a challenge. The best way to begin would be to find out specifcally what your husband’s problem with the decision is. How opposed is your husband to this decision? Has he attempted to expressly forbid your return? Is he just displeased? Is he worried that it will affect how you raise your children (if you have any now or will in the future)?
 
Hi Truthbetold,
There are many Saints who have gone through what you are going through. I would look to them for answers. One of my favorites is, St. Monica, the mother of St. Augustine. Did you know that her husband was abusive and a pagan until on his deathbed, he asked to be baptized, received the Sacrament and then died? In her biography it says that “Monica won her husband’s soul for heaven through patience. Drop by drop, the water had kept falling on the rock until it had worn away. Day after day, Patricius had seen his wife’s virtuous conduct. He could not misjudge her virtues. Now at last the work of Grace was accomplished in him. Monica’s persistent prayers for him were finally answered, as they would be for Augustine later on.” As her biographer says, “she spoke little, preached not at all, loved much and prayed unceasingly.” I hope this helps. I’ll be praying.
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truthbetold:
I am in the process of coming back to the Catholic faith. My husband is a Protestant and does not like my decision.

How should I procede?
How do I keep the peace at home?
 
truthbetold: do some math. How protestant is he? Did you go to church together every Sunday? Is he, and were you, active in the church? Where are the kids (if any) in this? What’s it going to cost him in terms of your time? Is he really Protestant or is he just kind of mindlessly anti-Catholic?

We don’t need to know your answers, but these answers will help you work out the particulars.

Talk to your priest about this: you’re not the first person to go through this. There’s a book out there with a title something like *When One Doesn’t Convert. *

Aren’t you glad you asked?
 
Dr. Colossus:
Mixed-faith households can be a challenge. The best way to begin would be to find out specifcally what your husband’s problem with the decision is. How opposed is your husband to this decision? Has he attempted to expressly forbid your return? Is he just displeased? Is he worried that it will affect how you raise your children (if you have any now or will in the future)?
He simply does not believe in the Papacy, Marian doctrines, or things that are not sola scriptura or sola fide.

He would “allow” me to revert. Not expressly forbiding, but I know his displeasure by the verbal “jabs” about the Church.

This morning he was singing, (he makes up songs). “I’m a new Catholic boy and I don’t know what I’m doing…” LOL, oh dear Lord Bless Him! I’m not sure if he was being disrespectful or just trying to figure out where he’s going in this (in a strange sort of way). Maybe he will come around, but other conversations have been quite negative about the church.

He does work with a Catholic woman who has planted seeds, and he respects her, so we’ll see. Pray for him will ya!!!

He is not thrilled about having our marriage blessed, since we were married without a priest present in his Protestant church. (at the time, I didn’t know I had to have a priest, I was getting married in a Christian church afterall…)

He is not thrilled that a priest I spoke to at one time said our children were illegitimate in the church’s eyes. (Since our marriage is not valid) They were baptized in a Protestant church and were concieved & born after we were legally married. sigh!

He does worry about how it will affect the children. They attend a Protestant grade school, which they will probably remain at.
 
I just converted this past year, and my husband is a Protestant minister. My advice is to be patient with him. My husband felt like he had done something wrong when I told him I was joining the Catholic faith. I had to explain to him that it didn’t have anything to do with what he did or didn’t do, but that it was a decision I made on my own after studying the facts. I discussed different issues about the Church with my husband. He’s okay with my decision now, and is even allowing me to have the children baptized this January.

So, be patient with him. Pray for him. I wouldn’t push the issue, but answer his questions when he has them. And if you don’t know something, be honest and tell him you don’t know but that you’ll find out. Above all, be the best wife you can be because that will be the true witness to your new faith.

God Bless You On Your Journey.

Scout :tiphat:
 
You MUST proceed because God is calling you. If you know the cathoic faith is the truth, then deny the truth…you may risk your salvation and go to hell. Remember what the bible says…father will turn against son, husband against wife…cause christ does divide.
But he may end up converting…just follow God, give a good example.
email me if you want to talk. mike@sevensorrows.com

God bless
 
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truthbetold:
He is not thrilled about having our marriage blessed, since we were married without a priest present in his Protestant church. (at the time, I didn’t know I had to have a priest, I was getting married in a Christian church afterall…)

He is not thrilled that a priest I spoke to at one time said our children were illegitimate in the church’s eyes. (Since our marriage is not valid) They were baptized in a Protestant church and were concieved & born after we were legally married. sigh!
Oi. This may be harder than you think. If you were a cradle Catholic and married outside the Church without obtaining a waiver, and** if you were received in your Protestant denomination as a member of that body,** then you have legally repudiated your faith, and having your marriage blessed will not do the trick. You will have to get married from scratch. Be sure you have this right – don’t take it from me.

My spouse was in your position (he had become and Episcopalian), and he nearly had a COW when the priest told him our marriage was invalid. He almost refused and for a while threatened to leave the Church again over it. Prayer ascending.
 
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truthbetold:
He is not thrilled about having our marriage blessed, since we were married without a priest present in his Protestant church. (at the time, I didn’t know I had to have a priest, I was getting married in a Christian church afterall…)

He is not thrilled that a priest I spoke to at one time said our children were illegitimate in the church’s eyes. (Since our marriage is not valid) They were baptized in a Protestant church and were concieved & born after we were legally married. sigh!

He does worry about how it will affect the children. They attend a Protestant grade school, which they will probably remain at.
My husband and I haven’t had our marriage blessed by the Church, either. I’d go to a different priest, if I were you. You weren’t Catholic when you were married and had your children, so you can’t be expected to obey rules that you knew nothing about. And your children aren’t illegitimate. I think what that priest told you is horrible. Your children are legitimate and your marriage is valid.

Scout :tiphat:
 
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truthbetold:
I am in the process of coming back to the Catholic faith. My husband is a Protestant and does not like my decision.

How should I procede?
How do I keep the peace at home?
I have a book that might be very helpful for you. It is called
When Only One Converts, and it is by Lynn Nordhagen. It contains many conversion stories by spouses who have converted to Catholicism and the different problems and/or triumphs that they experienced. Very good book. Good luck and God bless.

Sherilo
 
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Scout:
My husband and I haven’t had our marriage blessed by the Church, either. I’d go to a different priest, if I were you. You weren’t Catholic when you were married and had your children, so you can’t be expected to obey rules that you knew nothing about. And your children aren’t illegitimate. I think what that priest told you is horrible. Your children are legitimate and your marriage is valid.

Scout :tiphat:
She WAS Catholic. If you’re baptized Catholic, you’re Catholic. Period. Scout, you are usually 100% correct but in this case you are way off base. She NEEDS to get this right.

In your case, Scout, you were NEVER Catholic before your conversion. It makes a huge difference.
 
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mercygate:
She WAS Catholic. If you’re baptized Catholic, you’re Catholic. Period. Scout, you are usually 100% correct but in this case you are way off base. She NEEDS to get this right.

In your case, Scout, you were NEVER Catholic before your conversion. It makes a huge difference.
Oh my, I am sooooo sorry. :o I missed that part. Where is my head today? Yes, if you were already baptized Catholic then your priest is right and you need to correct the situation.

Sorry for the mistake. Please don’t beat me and kick me out of the club. :o

Scout :tiphat:
 
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truthbetold:
He simply does not believe in the Papacy, Marian doctrines, or things that are not sola scriptura or sola fide.

He would “allow” me to revert. Not expressly forbiding, but I know his displeasure by the verbal “jabs” about the Church.
Unless you think your reversion would utterly destroy your marriage, I think you should come home as soon as possible. As God’s children we have a responsibility to follow the truth, wherever it leads us.
This morning he was singing, (he makes up songs). “I’m a new Catholic boy and I don’t know what I’m doing…” LOL, oh dear Lord Bless Him! I’m not sure if he was being disrespectful or just trying to figure out where he’s going in this (in a strange sort of way). Maybe he will come around, but other conversations have been quite negative about the church.

He does work with a Catholic woman who has planted seeds, and he respects her, so we’ll see. Pray for him will ya!!!
He will definitely have my prayers. It sounds like he has the standard misconceptions about mindless Catholics blindly following Rome.
He is not thrilled about having our marriage blessed, since we were married without a priest present in his Protestant church. (at the time, I didn’t know I had to have a priest, I was getting married in a Christian church afterall…)

He is not thrilled that a priest I spoke to at one time said our children were illegitimate in the church’s eyes. (Since our marriage is not valid) They were baptized in a Protestant church and were concieved & born after we were legally married. sigh!

He does worry about how it will affect the children. They attend a Protestant grade school, which they will probably remain at.
If you never formally joined another faith, then you would have needed either a priest or a “dispensation of form” from the Bishop. However, simply because you did not have one of these does not automatically render your marriage invalid. It simply makes it illicit in the eyes of the Church. It has no bearing on your children’s legitimacy (which is a legal matter and you are civilly married). As far as having your marriage convalidated, this can be done in a simple ceremony, and need not require a vast amount of work on your part or your husband’s.

Your children were already baptized in the Protestant church, so your reversion will not require them to change denominations or be raised Catholic, although it will be your responsibility to try to convince your family of the truth of the Catholic Church.

One last thing, once you return to the Church you may still attend Protestant services with your family (as long as you also fulfill your Sunday obligation to attend Mass), but you will not be allowed to participate in their communion service if they have one.
 
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truthbetold:
I am in the process of coming back to the Catholic faith. My husband is a Protestant and does not like my decision.

How should I procede?
How do I keep the peace at home?
Follow the Lord. Your husband will eventually come around … I did.
 
Yes, was Catholic (baptized thru confirmation). Married in a non-Catholic church…hadn’t joined that church body at the time … did later on.

So… let me see if I have this right…

I am not married in the eyes of the church, since I didn’t join the other denomination until after the wedding ceremony. At the time, I really didn’t realize I had to have a priest present. But, if I had joined the other church before the wedding ceremony, things would be a-ok. I guess, I better make sure I have my dates right.
Oh yuck.

By joining the other church, in effect, I excommunicated myself.

What a mess.
How long does it take to get these things fixed? It seems my salvation is at stake, if in fact I am living in mortal sin. I can’t confess, until I’m back in the church. (I tried that, couldn’t be absolved). What if I die before I get this worked out through the proper church channels!?

Which leads to another question. If I am in mortal sin, doesn’t that cut me off from God and his graces? Still, He draws me back to him and the Church?

This is getting more complicated.
 
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truthbetold:
Yes, was Catholic (baptized thru confirmation). Married in a non-Catholic church…hadn’t joined that church body at the time … did later on.

So… let me see if I have this right…
I am not married in the eyes of the church, since I didn’t join the other denomination until after the wedding ceremony.
Right. Your marriage is not valid (not merely illicit, if I understand correctly) but it has nothing to do with whether you joined that denomination at the time. You are a baptized Catholic, who married without the waiver required by the Church.
At the time, I really didn’t realize I had to have a priest present.
What you knew or didn’t know doesn’t alter the fact that you “did it.”
But, if I had joined the other church before the wedding ceremony, things would be a-ok. I guess, I better make sure I have my dates right.
Oh yuck.
Again, before/after has nothing to do with it.
By joining the other church, in effect, I excommunicated myself.
Yup.
What a mess.
But a fixable mess.
How long does it take to get these things fixed?
First figure out with your priest what needs to be done. In our case, it took about a week – once my husband decided he would go through with the ceremony (following a lot of huffing and puffing: "Nobody can tell me this marriage isn’t a marriage; when I said ‘I do’, I meant it and I DID it . . . . ") All it took was getting two witnesses and showing up at Church one evening.
It seems my salvation is at stake, if in fact I am living in mortal sin. I can’t confess, until I’m back in the church. (I tried that, couldn’t be absolved). What if I die before I get this worked out through the proper church channels!?
You get it. Your priest is not likely to encourage your using the language I came up with: “So, Father, you’re telling me that for 20 years we have been living in open fornication?” :o It shouldnl’t take long. This isn’t a matter for the Tribunal.
Which leads to another question. If I am in mortal sin, doesn’t that cut me off from God and his graces? Still, He draws me back to him and the Church?
I wouldn’t worry about that. He’s omnipotent, you know. 😉
This is getting more complicated.
But when you’ve set things straight, it feels SOOOO GOOD!
 
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truthbetold:
So… let me see if I have this right…

I am not married in the eyes of the church, since I didn’t join the other denomination until after the wedding ceremony. At the time, I really didn’t realize I had to have a priest present. But, if I had joined the other church before the wedding ceremony, things would be a-ok. I guess, I better make sure I have my dates right.
Oh yuck.
Things wouldn’t automatically be “a-ok” if you’d joined before. A priest would have to look at the situation either way.
By joining the other church, in effect, I excommunicated myself.
You removed yourself from communion with the Church, yes, but this is easier to solve than a formal excommunication (which must be lifted by a bishop). As you were already confirmed in the Catholic Church, it may be possible to simply make a profession of faith and receive Reconciliation, but you’ll have to speak with a priest.
What a mess.
How long does it take to get these things fixed? It seems my salvation is at stake, if in fact I am living in mortal sin. I can’t confess, until I’m back in the church. (I tried that, couldn’t be absolved). What if I die before I get this worked out through the proper church channels!?
First off, if you didn’t know what you were doing was a grave sin, then it wasn’t mortal. Secondly, even if it were mortal, you’re doing everything you can to reconcile yourself to God, so if your contrition if perfect (only God knows this but we can hope), you are already forgiven. And third, in danger of death any Christian can be given the sacrament of Reconciliation so long as they believe in it and understand it.
Which leads to another question. If I am in mortal sin, doesn’t that cut me off from God and his graces? Still, He draws me back to him and the Church?

This is getting more complicated.
God provides 2 kinds of grace: Actual and Sanctifying. Mortal sin destroys the Sanctifying grace present in our souls. However, God will still send Actual grace to call us back to Him.
 
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truthbetold:
I am in the process of coming back to the Catholic faith. My husband is a Protestant and does not like my decision.

How should I procede?
How do I keep the peace at home?
First, congratulations on making that journey home. You will be facing a lot of resistance from people who don’t understand your change of heart. When your husband expresses his dislike of your decision, be a true lady and women of God and don’t argue, but win your husband over by your gentle love for him and God. Respond with logic that you know about the church. Learn your bible and give him verses that explain Catholic teaching. PRAY!! The Blessed Mother is an awesome ally in softening hearts to love her son and his church. Pray to her for intercession. Attend Mass, even if you have to go alone. Your dedication will turn your husband’s head, even if he doesn’t show it outwardly. Don’t be afraid. You are making the right decision! Good luck and God bless you!
 
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