Advice please: Slandered by a “bestfriend” who’s catholic

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this is going to be kind of a long one but i’m going to do my best to summarize it, i just need some opinions.

i had been bestfriends with this woman for the past 6 years. she’s a catholic, as well as a single mother of 6 children (ages 11-2) with two seperate child father’s and is unmarried. i have always loved her, even more so as she talked to me over the years about catholicism and why i should consider it. one day i felt a calling from God, and realized i was meant to be a part of the catholic church, and i’ll be starting RCIA this fall thanks to her. anyway, her two youngest children’s father (her ex boyfriend) is a raging alcoholic. he has been since i’ve known her, but over the years it’s gotten progressively worse. countless times he has gotten wasted, and then physically (not always) and verbally abused her as well as the other children (whom are not his. he’s never physically abused the kids, but has verbally). i’ve been a witness to it a handful of times, where he goes into a rampage and begins punching holes in walls and breaking things and calling her a list of horrible names. i’ve never witnessed anything like it before, i have stuck with her through it all. i have cried with her, prayed with her, and given all advice i could possibly think of on how to get away from this guy. she would always ask me for advice on what to do, and all i could ever suggest was that she keep him out of her house and away from the kids until he decides to get help with his drinking. she would tell me that she was done with him, and that she wouldn’t ever let him back in, but he always came right back. the cycle is the same everytime. he gets drunk, causes harm, dips out to his parents, she says she’s done, and then one day he’s right back at her house and the cycle repeats. she had a minivan to transport her children around, until one day it finally died on her. once the church heard about it, a bunch of members chipped in and they provided her with a brand new van. not even a week into her having the van, her alcoholic ex boyfriend kicked a giant dent into it during a fight. it’s been years of the same thing and it’s really taken an emotional toll on me. i feel helpless. i don’t know how to get her out of this dark hole she keeps putting herself in and when i told her i needed to step back from it for my own sake she completely slandered me, cursing me, calling me every nasty name she could think of. i finally blocked her number so she’d stop attacking me and later unblocked her. then this morning woke up to a text from her saying “you’re unbelievable. f*ck you. forever”. am i doing the right thing by stepping away? do i confront her, or just continue to keep my silence and stay in prayer? she makes me feel like i’m not doing the “catholic thing” by walking away from her and almost uses the faith to guilt me into staying. how should i handle this?
 
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I don’t need to read the rest.
I get that you love your friend, but she is in a relationship with a raging alcoholic and no advice you can give her is going to help other than just giving her the number for Al-Anon or similar codependency group. She needs to cut him loose for good and is not listening to the advice you and probably others have given her to do just that. You can pray for her, you can try to continue to be there for her in some way, but her constantly wanting your advice on a situation that’s extremely clear is just dragging you into the codependency and drama which she is continuing to muck about in rather than solve her own problem.

I would actually advise you to take a giant step away from this situation and distance yourself, tell this person that you care about them but can’t be constantly dealing with all this drama and it is not healthy for either yourself or the situation. She needs to get some help from a co-dependency group or a therapist, and stop using her friends as therapists.
 
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This is a situation you just can not handle or resolve. Professional help and counseling are needed-like yesterday. Step away, speak to your priest and take his advice. Pray for 'cause her stress must be terrible. Put it in the hands of God.
 
From what little I read you should step away from her and keep her in your prayers.

Please learn to use the Shift Key and capitalize the first word of the sentences of your future posts.
Please learn to use the Enter Key and separate the paragraphs of your future posts.

You claimed to try to help us by summarizing your situation but your post was very, very hard to read so I did not read the entire thing. It took too much concentration - I am sorry but that is simply the case.
 
I had this friend with appendicitis who begged me for help. I’m no doctor, but I’m definitely a Catholic; so I watched every DIY appendectomy I could find on YouTube, sterilized a couple of exacto knives, scrubbed the resin off my hemostats, pushed a couple of tables together so my buddy could lay down, and went to work. I mean I could have walked away, but if you think I’m going to ignore the challenge of someone’s self-serving definition of “being a Catholic” you’ve made a huge mistake. Luckily, during the YouTube search, I ran across some pretty good tutorials on making bundt cakes which were well received by his widow and everyone else in attendance at the viewing.

Seriously though, It sounds like she’s trapped in a cycle…and her attempt to manipulate you (by challenging your dedication to your faith) suggests you’re trapped in that cycle too. This sounds like a situation where she needs guidance from someone who’s not as close to the situation (like a good therapist or social worker), who can look at things objectively, and lead your friend in the direction she needs to be heading.

We also tend to selectively ignore good advice from those closest to us. “A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.”

I hope your friend eventually untangles herself from her current situation, and hope you find some peace in your decisions.
 
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okay then… i’m still trying to even figure this website out. i’m also doing this on my phone, so it’s not the easiest.
thanks.
 
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Am i able to go back and edit my post now to make it easier to read?
 
Are you in the US? If so, find the listing for Al-Anon meetings and go to an open meeting. This will give you some insight on what it is like to be in a relationship with an alcoholic.

For everyone pitching in to buy a van, that was very kind. If it now has a dent, that is her concern, you gave a gift, you and the people who chipped in don’t get to state how the van is to be treated and used. I am sure that she would rather have nice things, so, making this an issue only makes her more embarrassed and hurt.

She gets angry and uses coarse language at you. This is something that you need to decide if you will accept or not. I’d advise you to not use the term “slander” because calling someone names is not slander.
 
How do i go about breaking it into paragraphs? I cannot find anywhere where it will let me edit it now.

The name calling was not the only things she said, she also said many false statements about my family and boyfriend. I was not able to include all details as there was not enough space.
 
How do i go about breaking it into paragraphs? I cannot find anywhere where it will let me edit it now.
There is a little crayon looking icon on the top right of the post.
The name calling was not the only things she said, she also said many false statements about my family and boyfriend. I was not able to include all details as there was not enough space.
Alcoholism damages everyone in the immediate area, and it has now damaged you. Whether you realize it or not, you are suffering the effects of his drinking too.

Go to Al-Anon and learn the steps, and learn detachment. These skills will serve you well.

Avoid being target of abuse, even if you need to stay away. Pray instead, and go to meetings.
 
I believe too much time has now passed, it will only show me my previous edits on the post but won’t let me edit it any longer 😦

I will be looking into the Al-Anon meetings to further my knowledge in all of this. Thank you so much for the advice, I really appreciate it!
 
Actually, going back all the time is enabling her behavior. Suggest you step away, and if she reacts, tell her that her situation is taking an incredible toll of you and your emotions. That you can’t continue the support unless she helps herself.
Tough to do. Yes. IMO, necessary for something good to come out of this.
 
I believe too much time has now passed, it will only show me my previous edits on the post but won’t let me edit it any longer 😦

I will be looking into the Al-Anon meetings to further my knowledge in all of this. Thank you so much for the advice, I really appreciate it!
I believe that we now only get so much time to perhaps edit our posts?

I would leave some space between yourself and your friend.

I had a friend who used to call me constantly about negative situations in her life.

I tactfully tried to help but then I realized that she really didn’t want any help.

That became clear when she told me one time that I was “less expensive than therapy.”

I told her then that I wasn’t a counselor, and her reasoning was that she couldn’t afford one and so on, so I sent her information on low-cost counseling from various organizations, and so on.

It was an eye-opening experience for me, when I realized that she really didn’t want any help. 😦
 
Aw, that stinks 😦 Oh well.

The space is definitely being created. I realized she didn’t honestly want my help when she told me that my advice was nothing but wasted breath, and that i was only ever a shoulder to cry on.

I can definitely relate to that.

But, I guess you can’t help those that don’t want to be helped. I will step back and continue to pray!
 
I couldn’t agree more.

The hard part for me in it is that after I told her that her situation was taking a toll on me and affecting my everyday life, she flipped out telling me that i “have no faith” and i have my “higher than God opinions”. It’s ironic because she was the one who helped me build up my faith for so many years, now to tell me that i have none.

She has told me that I am an abandoner and a betrayer. The words hurt, but trusting in the Lords process is giving me peace.

Thank you for the advice!
 
The space is definitely being created. I realized she didn’t honestly want my help when she told me that my advice was nothing but wasted breath, and that i was only ever a shoulder to cry on.

I can definitely relate to that.

But, I guess you can’t help those that don’t want to be helped. I will step back and continue to pray!
Actually, this is one of the ways you can best help her. You are demonstrating that you respect human dignity -hers to choose what is a destructive to herself, and yours to choose what is healthy for you.

She and her family need some professional help, but you have done all that you can to help her, and I am sure your prayers will continue to help her.
She has told me that I am an abandoner and a betrayer. The words hurt, but trusting in the Lords process is giving me peace.
This is actually an affirmation that you are doing the right thing. You are abandoning her unhealthy decisions and wrong behavior, and you are “betraying” that which is unhealthy and wants to take advantage. It is not good for her to use you as an emotional punching bag.

Honestly some of these sayings come from an evil source. A good thing to “betray”.
 
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