Age of the Earth

[Paddy_Walker]

But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So given there were six days of creation does this back up bishop ushers age of the earth as 6000 years?

or

if I take it literally, ‘…is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.’

reading the ‘and’ as an addition sign…

I would get;

1 day is 1000 years or 365 days is 365000 years

multiplied by 6000 years - the age of the earth…

you get… 2,190,000,000 or 2.2 billion years old

but don’t forget the ‘and’…
is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

which I will treat as if it is meant to be there and say a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day, so

I add another 2.19 billion years to the first 2.19 billion years and get 4.38 billion years as the age of the earth…

but…

I have just used the 6 days of creation but there were actually 7 days, on the 7th He rested.
so adding another two 365000 years I find the earth is, after creation, 4,380,730,000 years old, or 4.3873 billion years old

which is close to the scientific age of the earth of 4.54 billion years

but

it leaves a shortfall of 152,700,000 years or 152 million years, which now becomes the age of the earth since its creation was finished and since after He rested from His work.

so he finished work creating after he made the first flowers and mammals…

:flowers:

 

[Glomung]

I wouldn’t take Genesis literally, or base any computations of years on taking Genesis literally.

From what I have gathered from what articles I’ve read, the Earth is 4.5 billion years old (more or less) and the Universe is somewhere around 13.5 billion years old. These are the best guesstimates that I’ve seen (and are based on the evidence available and not blind speculation).

 

[Aelred_Minor]

I would assume all that about a thousand years and a day is a way of saying that God is outside of time.

 

[Back2Church]

But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So given there were six days of creation does this back up bishop ushers age of the earth as 6000 years?

or

if I take it literally, ‘…is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.’

reading the ‘and’ as an addition sign…

I would get;

1 day is 1000 years or 365 days is 365000 years

multiplied by 6000 years - the age of the earth…

you get… 2,190,000,000 or 2.2 billion years old

but don’t forget the ‘and’…
is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

which I will treat as if it is meant to be there and say a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day, so

I add another 2.19 billion years to the first 2.19 billion years and get 4.38 billion years as the age of the earth…

but…

I have just used the 6 days of creation but there were actually 7 days, on the 7th He rested.
so adding another two 365000 years I find the earth is, after creation, 4,380,730,000 years old, or 4.3873 billion years old

which is close to the scientific age of the earth of 4.54 billion years

but

it leaves a shortfall of 152,700,000 years or 152 million years, which now becomes the age of the earth since its creation was finished and since after He rested from His work.

so he finished work creating after he made the first flowers and mammals…

:flowers:

You have the wrong idea of what the “and” does in this context. It it simply joining two clauses. One day is as a thousand years. A thousand years are as one day. It’s simply restating the same thing, just in reverse order.

Consider this statement: One meal for a caterpillar is a hundred leaves, and a hundred leaves is one meal. It’s not saying the caterpillar eats two thousand leaves each meal. It’s simply stating a tautology. A=B and B=A.

The line is simply saying that one day to the Lord is like a thousand years to a human and, likewise, a thousand years to a human are like a single day to the Lord.

That being said, the point is that a long time for us is like nothing to God. It’s not meant to be taken as a literal ratio.

 

[cajunhillbilly]

I would assume all that about a thousand years and a day is a way of saying that God is outside of time.

yep

 

[ProdglArchitect]

I would assume all that about a thousand years and a day is a way of saying that God is outside of time.

Realistically, a thousand years is beyond human comprehension. We can have an idea of it, but we cannot really know what it would be like to watch changes over a thousand years by actually living them. In Genesis, it was use as an allegory to represent that it is beyond the scope of human comprehension.

 

[cheezey]

I wouldn’t take Genesis literally, or base any computations of years on taking Genesis literally.

From what I have gathered from what articles I’ve read, the Earth is 4.5 billion years old (more or less) and the Universe is somewhere around 13.5 billion years old. These are the best guesstimates that I’ve seen (and are based on the evidence available and not blind speculation).

I would assume all that about a thousand years and a day is a way of saying that God is outside of time.

Realistically, a thousand years is beyond human comprehension. We can have an idea of it, but we cannot really know what it would be like to watch changes over a thousand years by actually living them. In Genesis, it was use as an allegory to represent that it is beyond the scope of human comprehension.

What’s that line from the movie “Oh, God!”?“,

"…remember, one of my days isn’t exactly like one of your days. When I woke up this morning, Sigmund Freud was still in Medical School.”

Jerry didn’t believe the world was made in six days.

“You’re right. Truth be told, I thought about it for five days and made it in one…”

 

[edwest2]

This again? I highly doubt all the dating methods. And if the Bible is not a science book, why bring this up on a regular basis? Unless, of course, someone wants to sell an idea.

I think the biggest mistake some Catholics make is removing all supernatural abilities from God. Using mythology, as an example (pick any), the gods were given powers not possessed by mortals - that’s why they were gods. If they had no supernatural powers, the average guy could kill that god or he could die from natural causes.

Did Jesus raise the dead, give sight to the blind and cleanse the lepers without science and technology? Once again, if the first premise is the Bible is not a science book, then, who cares what the Bible says?

Peace,
Ed